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Posted: 2014-03-13 13:13
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Posted: 2014-03-13 13:26
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I'm actually interested to see what Sony do with the 5 contact 3.5mm socket.

They've added accessories like stereo mic for recording (very cool) and the special (do they count as passive?) noise cancelling headphones.

If they can develop accessories that will interface through the 5 contacts for passing at least data (like the way old PDQs use pulse tone dialing to charge credit cards) then that would be pretty cool, especially as they can uncover the audio jack, unlike the usb which is still not a waterproofed standard.
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Posted: 2014-03-13 14:00
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On 2014-03-13 13:26:53, Ricky D wrote:.
... and the special (do they count as passive?) noise cancelling headphones.

They should be active noise cancelling, creating the 'anti wave' of the surrounding noise to eliminate it. Of course they also block noise passively like any other closed In Ear earphone.

The 5 contacts definitely should have some potential. I want a super slim xenon flash to plug in there
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Posted: 2014-03-13 14:40
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On 2014-03-13 14:00:40, DexterMoser wrote:

On 2014-03-13 13:26:53, Ricky D wrote:.
... and the special (do they count as passive?) noise cancelling headphones.

They should be active noise cancelling, creating the 'anti wave' of the surrounding noise to eliminate it. Of course they also block noise passively like any other closed In Ear earphone.

The 5 contacts definitely should have some potential. I want a super slim xenon flash to plug in there


I think he was referring to the fact that the noise cancelling process happens inside the phone, instead of being handled by the headphones as it normally happens... so this time the headphones do not have any battery and are slim, they just have a microphone which sends the sounds to the phone and then the phone create the "anti-sound"... so yes seeing it this way this kind of headphones could be called "passive" noise cancelling headphones
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Posted: 2014-03-13 15:40
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On 2014-03-13 14:40:41, CrownedAkuma wrote:

On 2014-03-13 14:00:40, DexterMoser wrote:

On 2014-03-13 13:26:53, Ricky D wrote:.
... and the special (do they count as passive?) noise cancelling headphones.

They should be active noise cancelling, creating the 'anti wave' of the surrounding noise to eliminate it. Of course they also block noise passively like any other closed In Ear earphone.

The 5 contacts definitely should have some potential. I want a super slim xenon flash to plug in there


I think he was referring to the fact that the noise cancelling process happens inside the phone, instead of being handled by the headphones as it normally happens... so this time the headphones do not have any battery and are slim, they just have a microphone which sends the sounds to the phone and then the phone create the "anti-sound"... so yes seeing it this way this kind of headphones could be called "passive" noise cancelling headphones
[ This Message was edited by: CrownedAkuma on 2014-03-13 13:49 ]



I would not classify such headphones as passive, they are active. They are actively cancelling the noise coming from the outside. Passive noise cancellation is just isolation of external sound using the headphones with no actual electronics. This would be large headphones which cover your entire ears and block outside noise.

By adding extra electronic noise cancellation, the headphones are now active noise cancellation.

All sony products which feature noise cancellation are ACTIVE, the only reason why the walkman devices have the NC inside the device is so that headphones are smaller and more portable. Haveing owned 2 walkman's with NC, I know that it's active since there is a huge reduction in outside noise, something passive NC cannot do.

I also own bluetooth NC headphones, MDR-NWBT20N, they also have active noise cancellation built into them.

Summarizing, Z2 noise cancellation is active and passive.
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Posted: 2014-03-13 15:53
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As @CrownedAkuma stated I meant with the processing being done in the phone the headphones themselves are passive. The noise cancelling still active.
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Posted: 2014-03-13 18:49
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On 2014-03-13 13:26:53, Ricky D wrote:

If they can develop accessories that will interface through the 5 contacts for passing at least data (like the way old PDQs use pulse tone dialing to charge credit cards) then that would be pretty cool, especially as they can uncover the audio jack, unlike the usb which is still not a waterproofed standard.



I understand your point, but just to mention, there are already some waterproof devices with micro usb uncovered. Many tablets and mobile devices in Japan have been waterproof for a while, and sony were one of the last to uncover the headphone jack, while retaining waterproofing. The latest sharp tablet with IGZO display, for example, has an uncovered usb port.
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Posted: 2014-03-13 19:40
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sony already made waterproofed usb port for the core, so naturally it should arrive to the whole Z series. i was expecting the Z2 to have it. they should make all the next Z devices with this feature and i wouldn't mind if they ditch the magnetic port for slicker design.
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Posted: 2014-03-14 00:32
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To be honest I think they haven't made a waterproof USB because USB ports are ugly. It would ruin the slick design of the Z series. I would rather have a flap that covers the port and keeps the design cohesive.
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Posted: 2014-03-14 01:11
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I think actually the flap for the USB port reinforces in the consumer's mind that Sony were the first to waterproofing in their flagships. I wouldn't bet against the plan being to keep the flap for as long as the typical contract upgrade period (24 months) so everyone get a chance to catch onto the idea, then when everyone understands "Sonys are all waterproof" remove the flap. So I expect Z4 to be totally flapless assuming we're going by the even number 1H and odd number H2 naming scheme.

USP reinforcement.

Of course, other manufacturers are now putting waterproofing into their handsets but Sony managed to steal the lead on this feature. All credit to them.

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Posted: 2014-03-14 01:29
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On 2014-03-13 22:19:52, amirprog wrote:
sony already made waterproofed usb port for the core...

As far as I know the core is not waterproof, just water resistant. And this is only true if the core is inside the smartband.
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Posted: 2014-03-14 02:17
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On 2014-03-13 19:40:44, DexterMoser wrote:
^Seriously? Could you give me a name or a link?
I didn't know that was possible.


http://magazine.kakaku.com/mag/pc/id=1541/
A review I was reading last night. I cannot remember other links, but fairly sure that this is not the first device to have coverless usb.
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Posted: 2014-03-14 02:35
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*sigh* ...oh to be Japanese
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