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Posted: 2005-03-09 06:32
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hi, sorry if this has been discussed or is ancient news...

does the camera on these new phones make that "shutter-click" sound or can that be turned off now? thanks.
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Posted: 2005-03-09 07:40
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yes it has camerasound and no it cannot be turned off.
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Posted: 2005-03-09 11:09
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Oh, you mean it cannot be turned off even in silent mode?
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Posted: 2005-03-09 11:17
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Dont worry setool will get it fixed.

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Posted: 2005-03-09 12:30
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@Arne Anka, I hope you right about the activity key. The K700i can multitask on many things, but sometimes their is no way of task switching without ending all the apps "on the top". A task switcher would be AWESOME.

Who needs a smart phone?

My only regret is I want the W800, and it's not coming till august!! I might be forced in to the K750 early. On the other hand, might not be able to afford either until august anyway! Haha! Just as well I love my K700i.
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Posted: 2005-03-09 12:33
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Why people complain about this little feature,just turn silent mode on et voila!
It's amazing to see so mush complains about this,are you all taking ''voyeur'' pics or what ?
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Posted: 2005-03-09 12:44
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bird and nature photography; playing with the camera at night when you don't want to wake people in the same room; candid photography where the camera noise reminds people you are there and they stop being candid; taking pictures of your sleeping baby; pet photography.

The list goes on and on. If it was that much of a problem, all cameras would have been banned in public decades ago.
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Posted: 2005-03-09 13:51
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On 2005-03-09 12:33:30, vegetaleb wrote:
Why people complain about this little feature,just turn silent mode on et voila!
It's amazing to see so mush complains about this,are you all taking ''voyeur'' pics or what ?




The problem is for lots of firmware versions the camera click is still there in silent mode etc. Mine used to go off in the orginal f/w release in the Meeting profile, but since I updated it, it is there all the time now.
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Posted: 2005-03-09 14:00
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Did anyone else see the K750 on GMTV this morning (UK)? The reporter was doing a report from the ideal home exhibition in Earls Court, and he demonstrated the K750 as the future of phones which include cameras which can take proper pictures and act as an mp3 player. This phone keeps popping up everywhere!
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Posted: 2005-03-09 14:53
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@max_wedge

Hope so too. I was just quoting what the SE guy said in the mobile-review article (have not seen much more info about the activity menu on other places).
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Posted: 2005-03-09 18:24
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On 2005-03-09 12:44:25, max_wedge wrote:
bird and nature photography; playing with the camera at night when you don't want to wake people in the same room; candid photography where the camera noise reminds people you are there and they stop being candid; taking pictures of your sleeping baby; pet photography.

The list goes on and on. If it was that much of a problem, all cameras would have been banned in public decades ago.




It is that much of a problem ! and many companys including the one I work for, actually do ban cameraphones all together in order to prevent industrial espionage.

And youre missing the point, its not a question of banning cameras, cameras are allready banned in many places where photography is not welcome, while you are still allowed to bring a phone.
Its a question of phones that can act as a camera while pretending to act as a phone. That is the problem.

One example amongst many that could be mentioned:
Your local pedophile are in a dressingroom in a public bath. People would instantly react if he pulled out a real digicam and started taking pictures of the naked kids for later distribution on the internet, no matter if the digicam was silent or not. But if he holds a phone to his ear and mumble a bit, it looks as if hes just talking on the phone. To prevent him from secretly taking pictures while pretending to talk on the phone, cameranoise was invented.

Similar situation in a company demonstrating their latest secret product to possible investors. Cameras are banned but these important investors need their phones available. Next descision is, either ban cameraphones or enforce cameranoise.

The list goes on and on.

Enforcing cameranoise (in some countrys by law) is actually a way to try and prevent a direct general ban on cameraphones. You can have it either way, total ban on cameraphones in many situations where youd still like your phone available, or cameranoise, take your pick.

If people could only try and look past their own personal small worlds, and look at the bigger picture theyd understand the reasons.

If cameranoise is such a big issue to people, do buy a regular camera without it. I have no respect for the list of situations where cameranoise is "a problem", that is just poor excuses. Taking pictures of wildlife in the nature ? dont bring a phone, bring a real camera. Taking candid pictures ? try asking first if those being photographed in candid situations think its as good an idea as you do, if they do, they wont mind the cameranoise. Taking pictures of your sleeping kids ? again, use your real camera, its usually not a sudden moment where you only have your phone available.

PS: just remembered, sorry max_wedge, dont mean to pick on you specifically in any way, its only genereally speaking.

[ This Message was edited by: numb on 2005-03-09 17:53 ]
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Posted: 2005-03-09 18:29
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numb, you're my hero.
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Posted: 2005-03-09 18:33
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@numb
okay okay!
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Posted: 2005-03-09 18:34
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@numb

Very good points. I guess it's just a shame that the possible breaches of decency/privacy etc mean that the majority of well-intentioned people have to deal with what is obviously (from the response) quite an irritation.

On a different note, if/when we start to get real zooming capability (not the silly 4 x digital zoom), the camnoise won't be much use in prevention of such practices. What then? Is this just postponing the inevitable ban of camphones in many places permanently...??
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Posted: 2005-03-09 18:45
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The phone looks great. 2mpixel is fanastic and great battery. I just hope the reception on the phone i sas good as K700i.
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