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Vit
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On 2010-10-04 21:31:41, etaab wrote:
I must be blind i cannot even see these blurred spots in those pictures mentioned.
As for Eldar Murtazin, the guy has a personal beef with Nokia so it comes as no surprise he'll slag off their products from now on. Its pathetic.
Heīs completely ruining his reputation.
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davidsic
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N8 vs Nikon Coolpix S220/SE X10/Satio : http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/misc/Nokia_N8-camera.html
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etaab
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I went off mobile review quite a long time ago. They underwent a site revamp and their reviews were pretty unrealistic compared to how i would have reviewed various phones. I hardly ever visit the site anymore, i use other more unbiased sites now. I only tend to go to mobile review due to their live images.
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Vit
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On 2010-10-04 21:35:09, mriley wrote:
The Canon 550D vs N8 comparison is stupid, you're just comparing the processing of the two cameras, they arent uploaded full size, 550D has much more resolution than the N8.
Everybody knows that.
Who on earth would say that a N8 would be capable of generating the same level of quality as a full fledged APS-C sensor equipped camera?
Nevertheless, even with resized pictures, weīre able to compare things like dynamic range, saturation, flare performance, etc.
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On 2010-10-04 21:44:39, Vit wrote:
Who on earth would say that a N8 would be capable of generating the same level of quality as a full fledged APS-C sensor equipped camera?
You'd be suprised how many people 
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Vit
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Hum... This review shows the Satio leading the way, IMO...
Still waiting for GSM Arena veredict, though.
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etaab
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OMG, just flicking through MR's review of the N8's camera..
..they cant say a single good thing about it. They say its worse than the Wave, iPhone 4, Pixon 12..
..that site has lost its marbles. All Murtazin can say is Nokia cannot handle this.. Nokia cannot handle that.. !
What the hell !? does he really think people are so stupid to take everything he says, everything negative against Nokia as true ?
What a complete moron ! the last time i saw this level of attempts to bullsh!t on such a vast scale was Apple's Steve Jobs with the antennagate issue !
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Vit
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Well, if itīs been proven that the N8 camera is that bad, I will seriously wait for the new Lumix Phone, TBA tomorrow.
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etaab
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Do you honestly think it will be though ?
No ? me neither. Murtazin reckons the Satio, Pixon 12, even the damn Samsung Wave has a better camera than the N8. Now i dont own my N8 just yet since it has not been delivered, but ive had serious hands on use with my girlfriends Wave and even though it has a nice camera, its resolution, colours, image quality cannot match my Satio's. Raw images ive seen from the N8 trounce my Satio's image quality also.
Im getting pretty annoyed at all this anti N8, anti Nokia, anti Symbian crap. Im actually now looking forwards to getting my N8 and proving them all wrong. Murtazin even reckons that the N8 is trying to take on Apple in terms of their UI. Anyone who like Symbian would know this is not true. Symbian 4 and MeeGo will have that job next year. The N8 and Symbian 3 is simply a gap filler between generations of Symbian and Nokia handsets.
I really am starting to believe the whole world is full of complete idiots who're easily bought. Gizmodo, Engadget, Stuff and T3 all give biased reviews.
Difficulties facing the company cover all areas and the lack of R&D investment in cameras
All Nokia have done is talk about their attempts to create a really high quality camera. Damian Dinning's almost step by step blogging of the development of the N8's camera shows how much effort has gone into it.
This kind of mud slinging PR to damage the chances of a product doing so well its intolerable !
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This video is quite entertaining:
Video answer to Gizmodo (How Usable Is Nokia's New N8?)
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Vit
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I am hoping for the best.
This phone is about to be released here in Brazil, and its price tag is actually pretty interesting. It would be a big letdown if the camera didnīt live up to its specs.
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On 2010-10-01 10:11:01, AbuBasim wrote:
Today Engadget posted a shootout between the N8 and the iPhone 4 here. Full size crops and video samples also available. Quite interesting actually. Overall I'd say the N8 is better but not with a wide margin. Here is one of the samples:
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That Engadget article is done either by Apple diehard or iSteve pay them do it
N8's camera is by their own test miles ahead, some guy already use engadget's own data to tell the truth:
http://shoppaholicdaily.com/n8/
But... the infamous russian site mobile-review sent out another piece aim to de-myth N8 camera as well...
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n8-camera-en.shtml
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Vit
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I was just thinking...
Itīs not only Eldar Murtazin who seems to hate Nokia... Have you seen what Nokia has done after the media has published the infamous antenna problem?
They have put a very funny text on their site: http://conversations.nokia.co[....]8/how-do-you-hold-your-nokia/. Funny for everyone, except for those people there @ Cupertino. They must have been pretty pissed off with that.
Now that article from Engadget does make all the sense. Comparing the N8 to the iPhone4 and stating that the iPhone has a better camera would be a perfect revenge.
A more reasonable shoot-out would be against a dedicated camera, or against the Pixon12 and the Satio.
After that, Eldar puts out his shitty comparison.
And even that one comparing it to the Satio and the X10... Eldar is russian. That site is russian. And that comparison looks much like Eldarīs. Thatīs suspicious.
Even though, I guess that even those favourable reviews lack a more scientifical approach.
We needed a definite one to put an end to this story.
If I happen to buy it in the next few days, Iīll do my best to provide a comprehensive side-by-side shoot-out of these four:
A Nikon D5000, a Pixon12, an iPhone4 and the N8. I would like to throw the Satio in as well, but I donīt have it anymore.
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Vit
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OMG!!
I went a little bit deeper into his comparison with the Pixon12. I knew that one of Pixon12īs weaknesses was High ISO performance. Look @ what he has written about the following two shots:
Let's compare our camera with PIXON12. I thought Nokia N8 will have an advantage due to bigger sensor. It provides more light, but we have to pay increased noise. Look at the picture of a well lit street. Signs on the opposite side from Nokia N8 are impossible to understand.
I will not say more, because bad conditions did not encourage good results. Both cameras are bad, though PIXON offers higher resolution of signs and fonts. Nokia N8 blurs fonts as you can judge by the shot of a nearby shop.
FIRST THINGS FIRST: THIS IDIOT HAS CONFUSED HIMSELF IN THE MIDDLE OF HIS ANGER TO DESTROY NOKIA. THE SHOT WITH THE HIGHEST resolved RESOLUTION IS CLEARLY THE N8īS.
Hereīs the N8īs shot:
And the Pixon12īs:
SECONDLY, THE N8 HAS USED ISO 671, WHEREAS THE PIXON12 HAS USED A PRETTY SLOW ISO 200. EVEN SO, THE N8 MANAGED TO RESOLVE QUITE A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN THE PIXON12.
ELDAR MURTAZIN: Youīre not only a decadent reviewer. Youīre a f**kinī retarded.
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Eldar hates Nokia,Motorola,Apple,Sony Ericsson,Samsung,HTC,LG,Blackberry and hates Chris...
Everything in the world isn't good enough for ya.
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