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Nokia N73 vs SE K800i which is better? |
chuck232
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On 2006-11-11 00:27:19, *Jojo* wrote:
H m m m . . . I may be wrong dude, but by the way I understand your language is that you HAD the K800, Nokia N73 and N93 . . . in the last year, pertaining to 2005   But I guess these 3 fones were NOT yet OUT in the market . . . last year
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I'm quite sure by his grammar he means over the past year, as in 2006. | |
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*Jojo*
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@chuck - Oh thanks . . . he could have simply said . . . during the past month/s . . . or during it's release . . .
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bavlondon2
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On 2006-11-11 00:27:19, *Jojo* wrote:
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Have you actually owned both phones?
In the last year i have had the k800/n73 and n93. N73 is ok and as good as the k800 in daytime but so slow in taking pics.
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H m m m . . . I may be wrong dude, but by the way I understand your language is that you HAD the K800, Nokia N73 and N93 . . . in the last year, pertaining to 2005 But I guess these 3 fones were NOT yet OUT in the market . . . last year
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You know what i meant mate. The k800 has been out for ages now as have th n73 and n93 and i have had all three of them.
Typical Nokia fan making stupid comments without any real basis for argument.
And in regard to reviews or whatever. Most of you nokia fanboys tend to go by the statement "this review was conducted by 75 people or whatever" therfore this phone rules!!!!
Thats absolute rubbish. Thats x peoples opinions. The only way truley know is to have owned both and make up your own mind.
When you have owned both then come back and make a statement on here. Anyone can pull up a review and go by it which is what i was demonstrating before.
The truth of the matter is that ever since imaging in phones started yes Nokia were the kings with the 7650 or 6630 but then SE came along and came out with the s700. And ever since then they have been the most consistent where as Nokia still cant figure out how to make that awful purple fog go away?
By the way n73 owners what do you think of the purple fog in low/night shots? Isnt it annoying that you forked out for this hpone and a basic feature doesnt even work? And what doyou n73 owners think of the CIF video? Up until the n70 CIF wwa really crisp and clear and i was looking forward to the n73 much.
In the purple fog and poor cif resolution i had no choice but go back to the k800.
At least they have a flash which is unrivalled by any other phone on the market. Yes even the LGK...5mp phones xenon flash isnt as good as the k800s.
To be honest video is important to me so k800 was kinda dissapointing but i know thats not going to be the case in the next range of phones so Nokia will have even stiffer competition come Q1/2 2007.
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/products/tracker.asp?i=73&page=
Check out the site above, where is the n73????? Its nowhere to be seen!!!
And now i thought id point out the poor codecs in nokia phones (bar the n93). Heres a little clip i ripped from a dvd or my k800, see if it plays on the n73? Nokias prehistoric codecs wont allow it for sure!
http://rapidshare.com/files/2899313/DayDay.mp4.html
Ok so heres a really good photo shoot out:
http://www.newmobile.nl/eur/en/news.php?news_id=caf44c
Notice on the night shots how bad the n73 really is. I mean come on silly comments aside can you really stick up for this phone with such a big bug like this?
When the n80 came out they had the problem (which it still does but its been out so long nobody gives a flying feck) with he grainy video which was a far cry from previous models, and I saw people saying "well yeah its not good but n80 isnt a video orientated phone its ok for me".
And i could only think to myself. Thats besides the point! Youve paid for a high end phone and some parts dont work as they should but your happy becuase yu dont use that feature? That was a disgrace given the delays experienced on release of the n80. But thats the problem with nokia you see, they rush out too many phones and dont perfect them so they can never become sucesfully over a long period like the k800 can.
Nokias technology is normally (not always though: HSDPA ect...)behind. They were one of the last to incorporate high 262k screens and even autofocus. Battery life has always been less on Nokias.
Another example, take the music rival phones. N91 v W950.
Whilst Nokia rushed out with the n91 whose memory micro drive is comprised of outdated moving part technology the w950 uses flash memory making it more stable and better quality build wise.
The SE rival to the n93/n95 is yet to be unveiled but when it does you canbet your pants of it will beat that as well as it has beaten the n73.
Just like the k750 and w800 beat the n70 + n90. !!!!!
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Ive posted this before but here it is again.
Conclusion
When we sum up a complete conclusion of the complete photo quality then it becomes clear that the Sony Ericsson K800i sticks to the number one position. There is no reason to buy the KG920, due to the fact that it takes to much time to make a photo and there is no extra quality in relation to the amount of available pixels. The N73 and N93 are nice devices with a reasonable quality. The N93 is too fat and too large, but has 3x optical zoom.
Especially the easy controls make the difference with respect to the K800i. It is something the other devices cannot match. Taking a picture with one of the three devices from a nice object or current situation is not possible. There are too many steps that need to be addressed before the devices are ready. The current situation is then already gone. The menu of the K800i is also one the easiest ones. All functions have the correct name in any language translation. Something that Nokia should address better.
There are not that many differences in relation to the settings in the devices. The N93 does not have the options pre-flash and red eye reduction. The N93 and N73 do not have a xenon flash. The KG920 has all you need, but the quality within the settings is not the same as the K800i. Options like BestPic, the possibility to shoot panorama photos or frame photos are strong points in the Sony Ericsson device. All these options are not available in the other devices. The BestPic system is something that should be placed in any camera phone. You shoot nine photos and choose the best photos from this set. You will never experience failed photos.
The winner on the flash is the K800i. With a distance of at least several meters the K800i makes the best pictures with enhanced flash. The xenon flash in the KG920 is not as good as the K800i but reaches a distance of one meter. The N93 and N73 have a simple LED light. There is a major difference between the two. The N73 has a higher range than the N93.
Are they no weak points in the K800i? Yes, there are! The video camera is really weak and is not the quality you would expect in such a device. The other three make better video and N93 is the best video camera device in the market currently. However the device does not offer the quality as suggested in the slogan DVD quality video. Next to that the size of the device is something that should be considered.
Can we address the question mentioned at the beginning of this comparison? Yes, we can. The Sony Ericsson K800i is currently the best camera phone. The complete camera quality, control and easy way in which Sony Ericsson build-in the camera options make the device the absolute winner. A drawback is the video. The K800i is closely followed by the N73 and N93. Both offer a stronger video quality than the Sony Ericsson device, but leave points behind on other items. Finally the KG920 suffers on easy control and does not show extra quality in relation to its specifications.
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baste07
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conclusion k800 if you like it
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n73 if that's the one you like. |
nettl
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That's the wisest thing I've heard in a longer time 
There is no really better OVERALL one between those models, just a better one for one's taste&needs... |
SloopJohnB
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But still its just one user´s opinion and it only concerns the cam. There are also other reviews that point N73´s camera as being better than K800 whose xenon flash is the only advantage. Just because one person used both and prefered k800 that doenst make it better. Its just a personal preference. Nokia is not behind  in terms of technology, thats a lie. Nokia is ahead now and offers superior phones ( in terms of specs and tech) than in every segment. What about other features? U may not use all of them but i´m sure there are people who use most of them or use one that K800 doesnt have like quickoffice, videogame emulator and much better video. I may not own both models but i have videos taken by them on my pc and i can say for sure that n73 beats the crap out of K800. I´ll post here a list of things N73 have that are superior than k800, this list was previously posted by other member but i took the permission to repost it (note that most advantages dont even concern symbian OS and if we take that in consideration N73 also works like a PDA while K800 doesnt even dream of doing so)
- N73 has stereo speakers. K800 dont.
- N73 has much bigger screen (40% bigger in terms of physical area)
- N73 has much better video rec than K800.
- N73 has bigger size and much cheaper memory card support
- N73 has better picture (according to public survey in M-R)
- N73 has better PIMs like unlimited phonebook, calendar and of course the very useful active today screen.
- N73 has independent voice dialing. K800 is still using voice tags.
- N73 has better blog system which automatic log your activities like sms, image/video taking, notes & calendar entries and later allow you to sync to your PC/blog. K800 blog is very rudimentary compared to this.
- N73 has Nokia mobile-search - customised yellow pages capability. K800 dont have this.
- N73 has PTT and EDGE support (K800 dont have this)
- N73 has much better multi-tasking (you can have any apps opened instead being restricted to java in K800)
- N73 has much better document handling capability (office docs, flash and pdf). K800 dont even come close.
- N73 has a much better web-browser
- N73 has better gallery/image viewer (slideshow with music) and album support (instead of folder based)
- N73 has better profile system incl. going to offline/music mode without rebooting.
- N73 has much better theme system - you can change most of the UI unlike K800 which is restricted to certain aspect like wallpaper.
- N73 has unlimited sms storage
- N73 has support for 3rd party Symbian apps
- N73 has better and more games and emulators support |
Trentors
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Yes. You posted this exact post earlier. I posted a response. But in case you forgot, here are some few points:
K800 has a sharper screen with higher contrast.
K800 has stereo Bluetooth
K800 has better battery life
K800 can be charged through USB
K800 has Xenon flash
K800 is MUCH MUCH faster
We have been through all your points and these before. Why repeat it? Now the discussing is about the camera and face it - The N73 does not win in any serious comparison.
We had a thorough walkthrough with serious comparison of pictures and it claims the K800 is superior. And that beats ALL user survey taken with any average Joe that thinks artificial colors means better quality.
Face it. When it comes to pictures the K800 wins this one.
Look at this picture taken with K800:
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Arti[....]yEricsson_K800i&file=%2F12.JPG
And then look at the N73:
http://www.mobilmania.cz/Arti[....]Mpx%2FNokia_N73&file=%2F12.jpg
The N73 is totally overdrive when it comes to colors. The red is TO red, the blue is to blue and the color of the building is totally of. Unrealistic to say the least.
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jj03
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Come on now....this topic is getting a bit boring...it's like being back at school...having owned both, i prefer the n73. it's able to do so much more, as you would expect from a smartphone...if i didn't want a smartphone, then i would probably go back to SE..although not the k800i, as ive had 3, and all of them with joystick issue's...
At the end of the day, we all have different taste's...i don't give a crap for review sites or their opinion's...nip in to a shop and use one yourself...then make your mind up.
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mib1800
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bavlondon2
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| Notice on the night shots how bad the n73 really is. I mean come on silly comments aside can you really stick up for this phone with such a big bug like this? |
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You are just taking bad shots of N73 taken by a website as representative of N73. This is ridiculous. In the following review,
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n73-cam-en.shtml
N73 nightshots are pretty good. In fact, night landscape shots for N73 beats K800. Even the reviewer who is known to be pro-SE has this to say:-
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| From M-R review: However usage of (K800) electronic shutter does not allow making shots with big exposure, and have no blur on them, as from huge handshake. Usage of mechanic shutter in Nokia N73 allows making better shots at night (in most cases they turn out crisper). As intermediate solution Twilight Landscape feature can be used in Sony Ericsson, but still shots don’t come out that crisp. |
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| Whilst Nokia rushed out with the n91 whose memory micro drive is comprised of outdated moving part technology the w950 uses flash memory making it more stable and better quality build wise. |
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W950 is really advanced because it has NO camera and NO wifi. 
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| Just like the k750 and w800 beat the n70 + n90. !!!!! |
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The following article said the N90 beats K750/W800 in photo quality. Hope you dont fume up.
http://www.imobile.com.au/buyer/default.asp?ID=buyermar0608 |
QuickShare
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i must blamed on the topic starter for such question though  this discussion will never end ...
My Flickr Site.. Flickr.comMost Popular Newbie 2006  |
sesukaku
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sloopjohnB.. haven't i taught you not to repeat facts that already mention? sigh... it is really boring you know. Aniway, K800 does have stereo speakers, it uses the speaker that is used to talk (the one above the screen as a secondary speaker), although i found that with the stereo widening being activated, the quality becomes really weird. Btw, i read in a review, N73's speaker indeed a stereo speaker, but, that will only become a stereo speaker if only you put it horizontally not vertically. Why would you use speaker if you have such a high quality headphones?
K800 can connect to the 5.1 logitech (i forgot the model), if you use W800's earphone ^___^. it produce thousands times better quality (dolby surround you know.. even better THX quality if i have the speaker.. i wish i have one) than being limited to stereo speakers on the phones body like N73. Can N73 DO THAT?
"- N73 has better blog system which automatic log your activities like sms, image/video taking, notes & calendar entries and later allow you to sync to your PC/blog. K800 blog is very rudimentary compared to this."
with my phone explorer 1.5, you can do this as well..
"- N73 has Nokia mobile-search - customised yellow pages capability. K800 dont have this."
K800 has preinstalled google search on its web browser, which is all you guys know, google is the best searching device on the net.
" N73 has much better multi-tasking (you can have any apps opened instead being restricted to java in K800)"
with the additional tab of "running aps" on the activity menu, K800 can handle up to 10 java programs, mp3 and bluetooth, messaging at the same time, and you can switch between them in only one press button. Why it is not good at multi tasking? i haven't try it though.. i dun need to run that much program at once. Im not sure if N73 is capable of doing this kind of multitasking.
"- N73 has better gallery/image viewer (slideshow with music) and album support (instead of folder based)"
K800 is more advance than K750 you know, since you can view your picture in various modes: thumbnail list, list, 3X3 thumbnail, 5X5 thumbnail, timeline view--which allows you to browse the picture you've taken based on the time: month and date. You can do slide show, you can edit the color balance, contrast and put somthing on the picture, thanks to the photoDJ. You can put music on you photos as well, thanks to videoDJ. You can put your photos to folders ^__^, what's wrong with folder based? As far as i know with N70, basicall you cannot customise your picture gallery.. tell me about N73?
"- N73 has much better theme system - you can change most of the UI unlike K800 which is restricted to certain aspect like wallpaper."
Only wallpaper? you surely have not have a single bits of idea about SE's theme system.. you can change everything else except the main icons.
" N73 has unlimited sms storage"
K800 has 1000 capacity of sms, i think that is good enough for most ppl. My K750 has unlimited sms storage because of Darkmen's help.
"- N73 has support for 3rd party Symbian apps"
K800 support 3rd party java apps, so?
"- N73 has better and more games and emulators support"
K800's game is not too bad. Why you use phones to play games? Wii is alot better, PS3 is coming up. I got DS lite btw.
"- N73 has better PIMs like unlimited phonebook, calendar and of course the very useful active today screen."
some ppl do not like active today screen because it blocks the wallpaper away. Unless it has touchscreen, i think that feature will not be as easy to use.
"- N73 has much bigger screen (40% bigger in terms of physical area)"
with 2,4" and 320X240? hmm.. K800 has more density then becoz it is 2" and it is 320X240. Besides, the K800 screen size is not that small either, it is the same size as N90 and D600. Any complaint?
"- N73 has bigger size and much cheaper memory card support"
yes the memory card is alot cheaper.. i dun understand why you say bigger size means better phones.. i think most ppl complaint about the size of the N93 and N90.
" N73 has independent voice dialing. K800 is still using voice tags."
believe me, i dun even know how to use voice tags or voice dialling. I type the number or i search from the phone book.
" N73 has much better document handling capability (office docs, flash and pdf). K800 dont even come close."
you must remember one thing: do not even try to edit docs from your N73, it is a total waste of time, the keypad sux. If it is just to view the docs, then i think that is the strong point really.
" N73 has better profile system incl. going to offline/music mode without rebooting."
At the very least, K800 support these profile, although u must reboot your phone. The good thing though: it is possible to use K800 without the simcard.
"N73 has much better video rec than K800."
i have nothing to say about this except: at least K800's video playback is good enough for me. It can plays videos that i downloaded from youtube ^__^.
"N73 has PTT and EDGE support (K800 dont have this)"
what is PTT? is that a food? Australia has 3G network, EDGE is not necessary. What's the good thing about PTT? if most ppl don't even know about that, will they use it?
yep.. so basically i think the "strong points" that you mention to me do not sounds convincing at all  . But, as i said in the previous post, we know all of these specs, pls.. do not post something like this again. I am sick of reading it.
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SloopJohnB
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U fought back my arguments about N73 by saying things like ´i dont need and/or like this´ , ´i heard some people didnt like this or that´ . Come on, i presented real specs and u presented personal preferences and sillyness. Which one should be really taken into consideration?
But you are right i wont repeat anything again, if you think is boring for you to read it imagine how it is to me that have to rewrite it again and again. I did it because it just seems that some people simply dont understand simple things or always try to find any argument, silly ones most of times, to defend k800 and its irritating so i felt i needed to repeat it in the naive assumption that if people read it again it might get into their stubborn minds but thats it. This is a forum and models will always be preferred, no matter what. |
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sesukaku
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something can be made out of nothing.
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"thousands times"? very funny.
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| the K800 screen size is not that small either, it is the same size as N90 and D600. Any complaint? |
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You got your fact WRONG again. N90 screen is bigger than K800 in terms of area (at least 20% bigger).
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well, if you think java app is as good symbian, then I wont even bother to waste any more time explaining.
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baste07
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so can this "argument" end...
i can say i like the color of k800.. find color of n73 ugly..
etc etc etc etc
if you like one phone than good..don't have to prove another phone bad in order to prove you have the better phone...
i guess that's what its all about.. proving the phone we have is the best and the others bad. |
bavlondon2
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Yes this topic is just going back and forth. And peoplea are jjst repeating themselves as they are running out of new arguments.
Im sure if anyone was thinking of buying this phone they would have realisednow how closley the 2 are to each other. Each one has pros and cons against each other but if you want to know which is the most popular one just look at the link below and all will be relvealed.
A true indication of which is better can only be seen in stats like below.
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/products/tracker.asp?i=73&page=
You see there that the k800 is still selling igh whilst the n73 is in 5th below even the Samsung e900.
Ist like ive said from the start, people dont want a phone with nice features but poor bugs on basic features. They want a nice perfected phone which doesnt have so many bugs.
PS Mods, you should probabaly close the thread now.
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