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ardian
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as for the names, i really dont know, i prefer to be called like xperias from 2011 but there are other people in charge for that so i dont know what they have in mind.... but all the new xperias will be awesome devices.... |
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vikeviki
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Thanks Smaug & Reefltoz,appreciate your inputs which helps for me,will nail this time carefully 
@Ardian making me so confusing to go for z2,he tempt me alot on future devices:)
Bro ,before Z2 excite you are killing it 
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ardian
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On 2014-03-02 12:27:19, vikeviki wrote:
Thanks Smaug & Reefltoz,appreciate your inputs which helps for me,will nail this time carefully
@Ardian making me so confusing to go for z2,he tempt me alot on future devices:)
Bro ,before Z2 excite you are killing it
[ This Message was edited by: vikeviki on 2014-03-02 11:29 ]
well you can buy the z2 if you want it...... z2 is a beast but if you want something heavier then wait what should i say more to you |
DyaRenz
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The back will remain glass
Or they will go for metal???
Metal is likely I suppose xD |
amirprog
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@detox
IMO, it's natural that the compact follows H2 flagship characteristics including the name because it's the mini version of it and naming it z2 conpact will not fit it and will sound old. the only awkward things about sony's strategy that is the root of this awkwardness is the half a year flagship, the numbers that change every half a year, and the naming from z to z1. this is awkward, hehe.
about arc design, is it even possible to make a curved glass for a smartphone without it breaking? and what about metal like aluminum? all the curved shaped phones chassis including arc are made of plastic. i'm not a fan of plastic.
@ardian
would be awesome if sony dictates 32gb as standard.
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Detox
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You said it better than I could  .
Phones:
W800i | K800i | K850i | W902 | Xperia S | Xperia Z1 Compact | Xperia Z5 Compact | Xperia XZ1 Compact
Firmwares:
R1AA008 | R1CB001 | R1EA031 | R3EA037 | 6.2.B.1.96 | 14.4.A.0.157 | 32.4.A.1.54 | 47.2.A.11.228 |
vikeviki
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@Ardian,
will Sony Inherits all this in Z3
1)Noise Cancellation
2.)Stereo speakers
3>)Bezel free
Then I will wait,will buy some ordinary phone and push 6 months. |
tk007
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@Ardian,
will Sony Inherits all this in Z3
1)Noise Cancellation
2.)Stereo speakers
3>)Bezel free
Mine Question Too |
Smaug
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On 2014-03-02 14:22:53, amirprog wrote:
about arc design, is it even possible to make a curved glass for a smartphone without it breaking? and what about metal like aluminum? all the curved shaped phones chassis including arc are made of plastic. i'm not a fan of plastic.
I believe so, yes. There was an interview with Corning claiming they had developed Gorilla-glass equivalent that was curved. I don't have it on hand, but if memory serves me well the challenge was a matter of adjusting to large-batch manufacturing as you don't print glass panels out individually, but in massive sheets. The curved technology was ready though.
Not sure about Asahi Glass. Sony reportedly use a mixture of suppliers for their glass - both Asashi and Corning. It may be this rumoured Z3/Arc prototype only incorporates Corning glass (at least on the back).
As for metal, yes you can certainly manufacture it curved relatively simply (depending on the metal - gold for example is extremely malleable). However, this can place stress and affect load-bearing at different points of the curvature. A gentle Xperia Arc-like curve should be fine though. |
amirprog
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@vikeviki
Let's be logical. sony will not exclude DNC and stereo speakers from Z3. it wouldn't make any sense. they would shoot their legs. seriously, i can't understand these kind of questions. (i'm not attacking you or something, just noting it. we can think and ask whatever we want). and why would you want bezel free phone if it's bad for ergonomics? if you meant "thinner bezel" then it does make sense and forget what i said. bezel free display can be good if they find a way to detect when we want to press a function and when we want to just hold the phone, in that case:
1. the phone would have to be able to read our minds.
or
2. they would have to make a small part of the display's top, bottom and sides not responsive to presses so we don't press something unintentionally.
the second option seems more logical and practical but i doubt it will happen in 2014. they won't take such a risk. plus it's a waterproof phone which makes the design even more complicated and bezel free design would have to look seamless - the display panel itself has a tiny bezel. so, truly bezel free phone cannot really exist in 2014.
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Gitaroo
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they can also use metal for the back right? Just hope its not plastic and exclusive to low end phones. I think the if it curve out on the back they can put the camera behind the screen so they can shrink down the top and bottom bezel. |
Smaug
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On 2014-03-02 15:02:00, Gitaroo wrote:
they can also use metal for the back right? Just hope its not plastic and exclusive to low end phones. I think the if it curve out on the back they can put the camera behind the screen so they can shrink down the top and bottom bezel.
Indeed.
On your first point, yes you can use metal on the back (perhaps treated aluminium). However, there is that question over cost. The iPhone 5s and 5c's different casing gives a very rough indication of cost differences between plastic and (flat) glass, and that is with Apple's purchasing power (presumably greater than Sony).
On your second point, I was thinking the same thing. Omni-balance design has been well received, but it can have drawbacks. In examining the Z1, the camera module appears too large (i.e. fat) to sit behind the screen so it must go on top. In keeping the Omni-balance symmetry, this then dictates the bottom bezel must share similar proportions. Notice Sony publicised slimming down the side bezels for the T2 Ultra, but made no mention of top/bottom.
An Arc-like design would solve this trade-off. You can still get Omni-balance symmetry, but with the wider top/bottom you could theoretically fit a large sensor behind the screen while thinning out the bezels. There's even talk about curved battery cells, but this may not be ready in time and/or push the cost out too much. |
amirprog
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@Smaug
Nice to know. either curved metal or glass would be truly wow but i think that glass is a better option (and in not a distant future, sapphire) because it cannot mess with reception.  |
Ricky D
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They could use metal for the back but the design would have to be smart in the way it incorporates the mobile antenna.
HTC get around this by having a weird looking line of some description breaking up the design, Apple infamously put the antenna in the frame which didn't work out so great, Asus had to quickly redesign one of their transformer tablets because they forgot to think about the antenna, iPad has a plastic strip at the back to accommodate the antenna components.
To my mind none of the above are ideal solutions. The Xperia P (or was it U?) had an alu back and placed the antenna in the transparent strip, if you looked closely you could see the criss-cross conductor patterns through the strip. I don't think a metal back is the best material for a smartphone. It looks and feels nice but the nature of the material offers restrictions to the core functions of the device.
I would like to see some of the wooden backed Arc prototypes come to market though. If it's properly finished wood it should be waterproofed enough.
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amirprog
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@Ricky D
+1 for wood. moto x looks pretty cool with the wooden back.
but you forgot about sapphire - no reception problems and it resist the most (?) to scratches and falls after diamond and looks more futuristic then wood. or maybe wood and sapphire! for the sophisticated mind. 
NOT metal or plastic back sony! 
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