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marty mcfly
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Posted: 2008-09-29 21:51
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What I can't get my head round, is why oh why, has he used such awful pictures in his 'review'? Half the pictures only needed the EV adjusted up or down, and the pictures would have been fine! So many pictures either over exposed, or under exposed. Does he even know how to use a camera?

I remember looking at his Innov8 macro pictures that were totally out of focus and wondering why? Why not attempt to get it in focus and use that picture instead? Or does he just take one picture in each scenario and use that in the review? I'm guessing he does, which shows what a prat he really is.

No self respecting photography journalist would allow their opinions to be based on pictures that were ruined with their own bad technique. For goodness sake, he took night pictures with the C905 at ISO-320 and then posted it next to an InnoV8 picture taken at ISO-80. How can you compare the two? What a fool.

Virgile Fontaine has shown how good the C905 really is. It 's just sad that Eldar can post these pictures to show the phone in a negative light, when he clearly can't use a camera to save his life.

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Posted: 2008-09-29 21:59
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Now now, calm down!

I think the C905 will be fine in all aspects including the cam, when it comes out. The only fear i have is that it would have the same problems with the software that the K850 had...but let's not be pessimistic! It will be fine!

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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:07
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:19
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On 2008-09-29 21:51:05, marty mcfly wrote:
What I can't get my head round, is why oh why, has he used such awful pictures in his 'review'? Half the pictures only needed the EV adjusted up or down, and the pictures would have been fine! So many pictures either over exposed, or under exposed. Does he even know how to use a camera?

I remember looking at his Innov8 macro pictures that were totally out of focus and wondering why? Why not attempt to get it in focus and use that picture instead? Or does he just take one picture in each scenario and use that in the review? I'm guessing he does, which shows what a prat he really is.

No self respecting photography journalist would allow their opinions to be based on pictures that were ruined with their own bad technique. For goodness sake, he took night pictures with the C905 at ISO-320 and then posted it next to an InnoV8 picture taken at ISO-80. How can you compare the two? What a fool.

Virgile Fontaine has shown how good the C905 really is. It 's just sad that Eldar can post these pictures to show the phone in a negative light, when he clearly can't use a camera to save his life.

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He used auto settings ! The fact that you see wrong settings has little to do with Eldar and more to do with problems in the C905's FW ! ! ! SE is trying franticaly to fix all that - why do you think oct is 1day away and still no c905 ! Now, with another 450 development workers been dismissed today, the 'fixing' will be more and more difficult. Next year this time SE should announce the first s60 cell and hopefully the fw will be taken care off by Nokia
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:24
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you can't expect more from point-n-shot test. besides why so angry? C905 camera did not lost arguments in comparision with i8510
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:33
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He is not really angry - just very disappointed.
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:44
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the xenon looks better than the one on K850
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:46
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On 2008-09-29 22:33:35, mario2004 wrote:
He is not really angry - just very disappointed.


No, I actually think he's just angry.
marty mcfly
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:46
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I wouldn't say I'm angry at all, just frustrated at crap journalism

Even with auto settings, you have the choice to adjust the EV. Everyone knows that, and uses that option too. Only an idiot would look at an over-exposed picture on their viewfinder, and not act upon it. So what is the purpose of posting those types of pictures? It doesn't show what the phone is capable of, just what the photographer is not.

Every digital camera fails to get the right balance with auto settings now and again, so what is he trying to show? We know to expect that, so presenting them as all the C905 is capable of is a poor show.

Raiderski,
I would expect much much more. Reading point and shoot reviews, you wouldn't want to see page after page of pictures where the camera didn't quite get it right would you? Of course not. You want to see what the camera is truly capable of, and this review doesn't do that.
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:52
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On 2008-09-29 22:48:40, plankgatan wrote:
just tell me. HOW CAN OVER 70st C905 PICTURES LIES ????

(98% of all pics by Marcus c905 is absolutley stunning)


im not worried at all. Marcus C905 is no beta phone. its the real deal, (he told me so on his email, he works for and travel around and promote C905 (and some other things)

so yes, i truley think c905 will be the best 8 m.p camera phone out there 2008/2009. (mainly because it have Xenon, but also because have stake on a great lens this time, (same stake they did with c902...better lens. better software... and so on )



Agree with you. 100% feedback. C905 will be my next phone btw. Although it is not a smartphone (I'm using P1 atm).
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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:57
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here you go...sometimes hard to write fast in good English
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just tell me. HOW CAN OVER 70st C905 PICTURES LIES ????

(98% of all pics by Marcus c905 is absolutley stunning)


im not worried at all. Marcus C905 is no "test unit" for later adjustments, its the real deal, (he told me so in his email, he works for and travel around and promote C905 (and some other things as well)... he said his c905 was the final product.

so yes, i truley think c905 will be the best 8 m.p camera phone out there 2008/2009. (mainly because it have Xenon, but also because have stake on a great lens this time, (same stake they did with c902...better lens. better software... and so on )

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Posted: 2008-09-29 22:57
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http://mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-c905cam.shtml
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marty mcfly
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Posted: 2008-09-29 23:00
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Thanks for that
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Posted: 2008-09-29 23:05
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http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-c905.shtml
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Posted: 2008-09-29 23:06
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Yeah that's interesting camera test of the C905. And the pictures are: WOW
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