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Tsepz_GP
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Oh come on, you have to give Sony more credit than that, the Xperia brand is well known (outside the USA), it has been around longer than the Galaxy brand. There was a point where Xperia was synonymous with being one of the very best smartphone brands, the X1, X2 and X10 were despite their issues, powerful with the very latest hardware and oozed of craftsmanship. One cannot mistake Xperia with Galaxy.
What is wrong with Xperia is that since the Z, the design has looked much the same, when people see a Z they don't know what it is, as far as many are concerned the Z3 is a Z in a new colour. The Xperia brand still has a 'cool factor', one cannot fault the beauty of the smartphones they make, but they need to better differentiate the design of each, make it clear to the consumer that 'that new Z' is quite the step up from the last.
Remember how the P800 and P900 differed? Even the P910 to P990 to P1, you had clear steps up. X1 to X2, and finally the X10 to the Arc was a huge one, that Arc was a stunner and stood out. Sony need a clear differentiation other than IP ratings and Camera updates that don't really capture the audience.
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Like I said,the best is still get Mediatek's best current chip. Look at this current comparison.
Xperia E4G(using Mediatek 6372 http://www.mediatek.com/en/pr[....]ications/smartphone1/mt67321/) vs Xperia M4 Aqua.( using Qualcomm Snapdragon 615 https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/615)
The video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPD97FTcghE
Score, gaming speeds, temperatures comparison.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlgUR9icVxo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtIPvcPM8k0
How Mediatek designs their core running hours (Surprise!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K-IeD7GJTY
Mediatek knows what they are doing.
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Those are midrange SoCs, Sony would need the high end SoCs from mediatek, the X10 or X20 (due in December 2015, sampling in Q3). X10 is available but it is on a 28nm process, which if you ask me is going backwards rather than forwards, regardless of its awesome features and tech. The 810 is garbage, it has no lived up to what qualcomm promised and they will take a major hit to their bottom line because of this.
They should have just cut their losses and focused on bringing the 820 ahead of schedule. A similar situation happened with the current intel mobile cpus. Intel had problems with manufacturing broadwells 14nm process, yield issues and instead of delaying the next gen, Skylake (6th gen core), Intel kept going, instead opting to shorten the lifespan of Broadwell (5th gen core).
This is what qualcomm should have done, I hope is doing, otherwise they will lose more customers. At this moment, I'd rather see an exynos in a sony device than a qualcomm. |
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On 2015-06-11 20:36:58, josephnero wrote:
2015 Mostly a ‘Transformation’ Year for Sony Mobile; 2016 Will Offer More ‘Bold’
Complete transformation in order to record a profit in FY2016
Focus resources through model count reduction and develop technology and appealing products for FY2016 and beyond
Clarify regional strategy and enhance profit management in each region
Take bold steps to develop new businesses
http://www.sonyrumors.net/201[....]y-mobile-2016-will-offer-bold/
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Galaxy S6 overheating
http://umbrella333.blogspot.com/2015/06/samsung-galaxy-s6.html
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stedus
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^^^Even if the Mediatek use 28nm process, it might not consume much battery.
As you can see from tai020381's youtube links. Most of Qualcomm 8 cores are running all the time (2~3 run at higher clocks while the rest stay around 400Mhz)
As for Mediatek, when doing normal task, around 2~3 cores are run at normal-high clocks, while the others are on sleep mode.
I guess we might have to see how well the X10 and X20 will deliver by the end of this year before making any judgement atm.
Qualcomm need do something fast, the low-middle end CPUs are not perform as they are promised, while the High-end CPU (810) is still having this overheating problem
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What the hell is that? How do you read this |
amirprog
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On 2015-06-13 00:07:02, Tsepz_GP wrote:
Oh come on, you have to give Sony more credit than that, the Xperia brand is well known (outside the USA), it has been around longer than the Galaxy brand. There was a point where Xperia was synonymous with being one of the very best smartphone brands, the X1, X2 and X10 were despite their issues, powerful with the very latest hardware and oozed of craftsmanship. One cannot mistake Xperia with Galaxy.
What is wrong with Xperia is that since the Z, the design has looked much the same, when people see a Z they don't know what it is, as far as many are concerned the Z3 is a Z in a new colour. The Xperia brand still has a 'cool factor', one cannot fault the beauty of the smartphones they make, but they need to better differentiate the design of each, make it clear to the consumer that 'that new Z' is quite the step up from the last.
Remember how the P800 and P900 differed? Even the P910 to P990 to P1, you had clear steps up. X1 to X2, and finally the X10 to the Arc was a huge one, that Arc was a stunner and stood out. Sony need a clear differentiation other than IP ratings and Camera updates that don't really capture the audience.
I see no problem with the same design but evolved over 2-3 years like sony and every other manufacturer is doing because you can notice apple, samsung, etc. are still successful despite that. imo sony's problem in that regard is that they renew the main flag every 6 months so the anticipation buildup is just too early and too fast and people see similar design every 6 months instead of every 12 months so it appears as if sony has the same design for more time then other manufacturers but it is not really true. also, rumors until now suggest that from next wave of flags the design will be different so it is not an issue as the first z was released just in mid 2013 - same evolved design in less then 3 years, more or less on par with other manufacturers. sure, sony could make a totally new design every year but it wouldn't solve their problems and also has disadvantage . first they need to stop with 6 months flag internationally or at least start naming it with "+". that way people won't be disappointed to see the same design because it is just enhanced z3 (or whatever name). imo best is to just stop with 6 months flag at least for the world (they could keep the 6 months for japan only with a "+").
i give a lot of credit to sony and i am aware of other issues that sony is dealing with like having to go with s810, etc. what i'm saying is pointing their bigger problems and the biggest problem imo is that a lot of people are not aware of xperia devices because of almost no carrier support, very weak marketing, small delayed availability. some stores just don't sell xperia devices. sony can not sell their devices if people can't buy them. samsung, apple and lg devices are marketed like crazy in all the media sources and available in any store, big or small, whether it is a carrier store or just regular mobile phone store. it is like sony don't want to sell their devices or just can't or don't want to mass produce their devices in big quantities. |
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Global Samsung Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 Edge owners complain of heat issues (Photos and Video)
http://umbrella333.blogspot.c[....]g-galaxy-s6-and-galaxy-s6.html
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Link doesn't work nodar.. |
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amirprog
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@nodarsixar
will you stop with these stupid links to your webpages?
here is the original link:
http://forums.androidcentral.[....]4-galaxy-s6-edge-overheat.html |
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Stupid links? hm
and other screenshots and video?
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Tsepz_GP
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We will have to agree to disagree on some points Amirprog e.g. using same design, Samsung profits are dropping Y-on-Y due to the same ol' design and too much marketing spend vs. R&D spend, but they are fixing that now it seems. Just because Samsung and Apple do something, it does not make it right e.g. Samsung taking away water resistance and MicroSD in the GS6, awful move.
I fully agree with you with regards to carrier support, slow to market release and poor marketing though. Sony need to invest more into their mobile division.
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