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dante_sparda
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Posted: 2008-09-29 16:16
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@ norbi_nw

Dude.. between C905 and innov8 photo quality are small differences, making both winners. Best images results are depending by the settings every user made in the camera interface. Stop talkin' BS, as far I have seen, you look like Eldar 2, or someth'. Maybe I am stupid,idiot, a**hole, moron (call me whatever you want, imo), but I'm NOT BLIND. And the only thing I can see is that the C905 have the best overall still camera on the mobile phones market. You can say anything... you can go to verify all photos on a specialised laboratory, I don't care. I've seen all photos posted, and C905 wins for me. In every term: best macro, best colors, best low light, best night, best flash. Ah, and you may dream on that sensor ) .. to be adopted by SE or Nokia, or other manufacturer. Maybe Nokia will try to buy that sensor manufacturer.. I think will put their sony sensors with optical zoom, in the next cyber-shot flagship for rest of the world.

And overall, C905 is the best for me. Why? Because I don't need a smartphone, for that I have an Aspire One (great portability, big screen to view and edit docs & others). I need a feature phone, with very good camera, and great specs, and the most important, very good battery management. So.. if I was skeptic at the begining about C905, now I am addicted to it.
EddieAdams
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Posted: 2008-09-29 16:40
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On 2008-09-29 05:58:10, se_dude wrote:
Check the C905's review by Eldar at mobile-review.It sucks. Completely.I hope Mizzle can shed some light into the matter.


1)C905's build quality is crap
2)Speaker volume is pathetic
3)It will be a toalt failure, given the price of 500 euros
4)It looks pathetic
5)3/4th of the revirew was on how crap the pricing is and how big a failure it would be. He even went on to say that nokia would better get the capuchin into their phones coz SE would screw it

I just read the conclusion of http://www.mobile-review.com/review/sonyericsson-c905cam.shtml and Eldar by no means trashes the C905. Unless it was lost in google translation. He essentially says that the Camera/Phone best suited to each individual depends on the person's lifestyle. People who like photographing nature in daylight would benefit from the i8510 more, and people who lead a night-lifestyle would benefit more from the C905. C905 is better in low-light/no flash as well as ,clearly, when a flash is necessary. If you consider the price difference between the two phones I'm going C905.
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gtr83
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Posted: 2008-09-29 16:55
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Yeah but if you've been following ALL his recent reviews, you'll notice that he has started to sound like a Nokia sales rep. He even has a fairly good opinion of the N96, which is very weird to me. And guess what, he said that W902 should have been canceled.

Back to the old argument that SE doesn't make phones only for people like Eldar Murtazin.

And yeah despite its many flaws I still like the C905. It doesn't look as fashionable as the rest of the 8MPs but it looks reliable and no-nonsense, design-wise.
se_dude
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Posted: 2008-09-29 17:04
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At Sony Ericsson tried to play the card value, making the product cheaper, affordable, that the difference in cost can justify the lower performance. However, problems with production, lack of product for all buyers made such an approach is unwarranted. However, problems with production, lack of product for all buyers made such an approach is unwarranted. The deficit for this model is artificial, because the company simply can not deliver sufficient quantities of Staff, made the proposal based on forecasts of sales partners who did not differ optimism. The deficit for this model is artificial, because the company simply can not deliver sufficient quantities of Staff, made the proposal based on forecasts of sales partners who did not differ optimism. Let me quote the order of a Russian partner companies: «We have placed an order for C905 as a novelty, but do not expect any significant sales in the current value, it is high. Let me quote the order of a Russian partner companies: «We have placed an order for C905 as a novelty, but do not expect any significant sales in the current value, it is high. My bet is placed on products such as LG KC910, Samsung M8800. My bet is placed on products such as LG KC910, Samsung M8800. When an adequate price, they will pull back customers assume. When an adequate price, they will pull back customers assume. Fair value for the C905 should be about 15-18 rubles (less than 450 euros), but not at 675 euros. Fair value for the C905 should be about 15-18 rubles (less than 450 euros), but not at 675 euros. Model fans are interested in stamps, it is similar to the Sony Ericsson S700, profile sales will be the same - a surge of interest in news, and then a sharp decline in interest and the minimum sale before the end of life model. Model fans are interested in stamps, it is similar to the Sony Ericsson S700, profile sales will be the same - a surge of interest in news, and then a sharp decline in interest and the minimum sale before the end of life model. Sales Sony Ericsson K850, which was not good, were 2-3 times higher than the possible sale of S905. Sales Sony Ericsson K850, which was not good, were 2-3 times higher than the possible sale of S905. We do not believe in this product, the more that the company would not actively advertise it, as was done for K850i, or until we know nothing about such advertising, any material on this we do not have ». We do not believe in this product, the more that the company would not actively advertise it, as was done for K850i, or until we know nothing about such advertising, any material on this we do not have ».


Here's how to describe the prospects of the product director of a major retail chains: «A good phone for fans brands, we think that in the first two or three weeks, demand is high. Then slightly modified value, but very slightly. Then slightly modified value, but very slightly. Sales will be limited, so dempingovat no sense. Sales will be limited, so dempingovat no sense. Ordered volumes will be sold to us, then plan to get only the quantity that can sell. Ordered volumes will be sold to us, then plan to get only the quantity that can sell. Play on this model, uninteresting, we are not seeing increased interest from buyers. Play on this model, uninteresting, we are not seeing increased interest from buyers. In the absence of marketing support to promote the device itself will not. In the absence of marketing support to promote the device itself will not. Look at Digital Camera Sony, now a commodity, which would be «hot» at the end of the year ». Look at Digital Camera Sony, now a commodity, which would be «hot» at the end of the year ».

After receiving such feedback, the company plans to adjust its aid. After receiving such feedback, the company plans to adjust its aid. If the July retail price is expected to be 550 Euro, but now it has risen to 650-680 dollars. If the July retail price is expected to be 550 Euro, but now it has risen to 650-680 dollars. This is yet another indicator that the company does not rely on good sales of the product. This is yet another indicator that the company does not rely on good sales of the product. At Sony Ericsson does not attach great importance to Sony Ericsson C905, the portal for retailers this model, unlike the W902, is not represented, there are no documents, manuals on it. At Sony Ericsson does not attach great importance to Sony Ericsson C905, the portal for retailers this model, unlike the W902, is not represented, there are no documents, manuals on it. Under the developer is still hanging paper describing the old camera module, missing regimes formats shooting. Under the developer is still hanging paper describing the old camera module, missing regimes formats shooting.


Came out a model for those who understand the sense in the cells and likes Sony Ericsson, the benefit of any other advantages over current models of this unit does not have. Came out a model for those who understand the sense in the cells and likes Sony Ericsson, the benefit of any other advantages over current models of this unit does not have. Exit at year-end image model pricing comparable groups forced the company to use inexpensive materials corps that in no case do C905 with an interesting image point of view. Exit at year-end image model pricing comparable groups forced the company to use inexpensive materials corps that in no case do C905 with an interesting image point of view. This camera with telephone, in that a model and positioned. This camera with telephone, in that a model and positioned.

I am difficult to describe the audience of the product. I am difficult to describe the audience of the product. But I think it will be primarily those who are accustomed to Sony Ericsson, does not want to change the manufacturer and needs to maximize the quality of the camera, and the issue price for their secondary. But I think it will be primarily those who are accustomed to Sony Ericsson, does not want to change the manufacturer and needs to maximize the quality of the camera, and the issue price for their secondary. Naming such a mass audience can be very natyazhkoy. Naming such a mass audience can be very natyazhkoy. Changing the price segments Sony Ericsson has led to a reduction in sales in many countries, including in Russia. Changing the price segments Sony Ericsson has led to a reduction in sales in many countries, including in Russia. The company is beginning to lose market model Sony Ericsson C905 - one element of «successful». The company is beginning to lose market model Sony Ericsson C905 - one element of «successful». Since Sony Ericsson K800 company went on the pull-down: Updating K810i, then K850 and now C905. Since Sony Ericsson K800 company went on the pull-down: Updating K810i, then K850 and now C905. Each subsequent model has fewer and fewer market. Each subsequent model has fewer and fewer market.

Another miscalculation becomes a revaluation of the camera. Another miscalculation becomes a revaluation of the camera. At the mass market cameras in 5 Megapixels already considered sufficient, people do not seek to increase the quantity, rather they consider the phone together, they're looking for, that can get them for minimum money. At the mass market cameras in 5 Megapixels already considered sufficient, people do not seek to increase the quantity, rather they consider the phone together, they're looking for, that can get them for minimum money. In terms of price / quality Sony Ericsson C905 has a very cumbersome. In terms of price / quality Sony Ericsson C905 has a very cumbersome.




Now, what are these doing in a phone review?? Let me see...

[ This Message was edited by: se_dude on 2008-09-29 16:06 ]
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Posted: 2008-09-29 17:21
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On 2008-09-29 16:16:21, dante_sparda wrote:
@ norbi_nw

Dude.. between C905 and innov8 photo quality are small differences, making both winners. Best images results are depending by the settings every user made in the camera interface. Stop talkin' BS, as far I have seen, you look like Eldar 2, or someth'. Maybe I am stupid,idiot, a**hole, moron (call me whatever you want, imo), but I'm NOT BLIND. And the only thing I can see is that the C905 have the best overall still camera on the mobile phones market. You can say anything... you can go to verify all photos on a specialised laboratory, I don't care. I've seen all photos posted, and C905 wins for me. In every term: best macro, best colors, best low light, best night, best flash. Ah, and you may dream on that sensor ) .. to be adopted by SE or Nokia, or other manufacturer. Maybe Nokia will try to buy that sensor manufacturer.. I think will put their sony sensors with optical zoom, in the next cyber-shot flagship for rest of the world.

And overall, C905 is the best for me. Why? Because I don't need a smartphone, for that I have an Aspire One (great portability, big screen to view and edit docs & others). I need a feature phone, with very good camera, and great specs, and the most important, very good battery management. So.. if I was skeptic at the begining about C905, now I am addicted to it.




Totality agree with you

I don't need a smartphone also and
I need a feature phone, with very good camera, and great specs, and the most important, very good battery management. So.. if I was skeptic at the begining about C905, now I am addicted to it.
i think the same
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Arne Anka
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Posted: 2008-09-29 17:33
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On 2008-09-29 14:29:50, Hiron wrote:
It makes C905's images become noisier and brighter... Maybe Eldar activates image stabilization? Just see night photos from marcus... Most of them are shooted at ISO64. Innov8 is crap compared to Marcus night pics...


That's probably because Marcus uses spot metering rather than center weight (the default). With spot metering only a small part of the scene is used to measure the exposure and if that small area happens to be very light (e.g. a bulb) you get great night shots with low ISO values.
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Posted: 2008-09-29 17:35
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for me personally,Eldar is not trustworthy anymore..he tries to distort truth and make us beleive that we are elephants by his judges about c905...well,NO WE'RE NOT ELEPHANTS!!!AND, C905 RULEZZZZZZZZZ daylight shots or nightshots!!!we are not blind...

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Posted: 2008-09-29 17:41
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mmmmmm...... c905 buy will i

the force is strong with this phone hehe
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Posted: 2008-09-29 18:16
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Even ,In that review some pics of c905 worse that Innov8 but i still going to buy c905 because i can change setting to make c905 shot better than Innov8
Bialynia
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Posted: 2008-09-29 18:48
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So will the C905 work with both European 3G standards and Tmobiles and AT&T's 3G standards in the US or will we see multiple versions of the C905 for N. America and the rest of the world? Will it have a 1700 band? If it doesn't that sucks.

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masada1971
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Posted: 2008-09-29 18:55
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its quad band phone,so is compatible with all available networks around the world...
Bialynia
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Posted: 2008-09-29 18:58
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On 2008-09-29 18:55:23, masada1971 wrote:
its quad band phone,so is compatible with all available networks around the world...


I don't think it has the 1700 band meaning it will not work on Tmobile's 3G network in N America.
gtr83
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Posted: 2008-09-29 19:57
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I heard that there will be two versions, C905 for international markets and C905a for USA. Dunno if there would be a C905c (for China) though.
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Posted: 2008-09-29 20:07
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There will be a c905a, but it still will not support t-mobile 3g 1700 band, so for me theres no point waiting for the NA version.
Bialynia
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Posted: 2008-09-29 20:30
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On 2008-09-29 20:07:48, valgargg wrote:
There will be a c905a, but it still will not support t-mobile 3g 1700 band, so for me theres no point waiting for the NA version.


So the regular C905 will only support 3G 2100? The A version will support AT&T then?
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