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skydiver
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:37
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It looks like the HBH BT headset problem with the REAL P910's was just a scare.

Both Bengalboy's and fijbert's P910's work fine with HBH (and other) BT headsets.
gbrooks3
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:40
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yeh everything works fine. i am sure a solution will be released soon because the person who makes the files has a p900 of his own and is very interested in getting it right.

it seems that both bluetooth firmwares are the same for p900 and p910i so only a small change to the phones GDFS will be needed.
skydiver
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:46
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so do both phones have the same BT chipset then ?
P800_Zen_master
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:48
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Very well put a_p_a_n_d_e_y.

I just thought that SE paid a % for the firmware on each handheld. Upgrades are always free. I also thought the reason they dont sell them or you have never seen them for sale because they make handhelds thinking that no one flashes them, hence why the warning on "fighter"'s site before entering into it.

So I guess if I made a phone I could get a free OS for it without paying for it then
richy240
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:50
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On 2004-09-13 17:46:39, skydiver wrote:
so do both phones have the same BT chipset then ?



According to the whitepaper relased by Sony Ericsson outlining the differences between the P900 and P910, the two have different BT chipsets.
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gbrooks3
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:53
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hmmm, not sure about that, the problem could stem from the actual firmware the fighter team created. because they had to make a custom firmware i suppose something was bound to go wrong.

remember this is the first release of a new firmware.
skydiver
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:54
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@richy240
thats what i thought
so thay cant have the same BT firmware can thay ?
i thought thay were using the old p900 BT firmware not a newly created one

[ This Message was edited by: skydiver on 2004-09-13 16:56 ]
gbrooks3
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Posted: 2004-09-13 17:58
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the information i just wrote came from the person who made made the firmware. i think he could mean he used the old p900 bluetooth firmware for the p910 upgrade.

the latest p900 firmware is R5D (bluetooth)

if someone with a p910i could kindly tell us their version it would be appreciated.

[ This Message was edited by: gbrooks3 on 2004-09-13 17:01 ]

[ This Message was edited by: gbrooks3 on 2004-09-13 17:25 ]
a_p_a_n_d_e_y
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Posted: 2004-09-13 18:02
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SE pays for the research and investment into building of the OS
Also, SE recovers the same cost from consumers by charging very high prices for the phone. If you compare the actual material + construction cost of the phone, it is much lower.
That is as for the firmware that SE provides. It is in no way connected to what I put after removing that version. Only thing that happens is that SE obviously doesnt support my variant.
Who owns the IPR on the hacked firmware that is floating around?

Also, the reason why SE doesnt sell firmware is not because they think there are not many takers... It is for the simple market mathematics of survival. If they stop supporting their gizmos, they will die coz everyone else provides them. Remember, all firware upgrades focus on fixing problems. If windows is not supported, why wont many people shift focus elsewhere? This is even more true for expensive gadgets like Px00; just like corporate clients of MS who wont buy anything which lacks support.
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P800_Zen_master
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Posted: 2004-09-13 19:38
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Thanks a_p_a_n_d_e_y, for clearing that up.
anlog
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Posted: 2004-09-13 21:45
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They ARE different BT chipsets. I don't see how they could be the same firmware. Production P910's are shipping with version R2C, and the P900's latest version is R5D.

Lead (the main Fighter programmer) said he will have a GDFS patch that SHOULD fix the BT issues, but I am very skeptical of this.

As for screen flicker, after taking a second glance, there is a TINY bit of flicker. Not really noticeable unless you REALLY look closely.
richy240
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Posted: 2004-09-13 21:57
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On 2004-09-13 21:45:37, anlog wrote:
As for screen flicker, after taking a second glance, there is a TINY bit of flicker. Not really noticeable unless you REALLY look closely.



Am I correct in assuming this can be fixed by replacing the screen with a P910 screen, once they are available for purchase?
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oleeid
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Posted: 2004-09-13 23:22
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I havent read much of this post but who of you guys can help me so I can get a 1 gb on my P900?
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richy240
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Posted: 2004-09-13 23:34
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On 2004-09-13 23:22:51, oleeid wrote:
I havent read much of this post but who of you guys can help me so I can get a 1 gb on my P900?



1GB cards aren't out yet. And no, you cannot use a larger memory stick than 128MB on the P900.
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anlog
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Posted: 2004-09-13 23:48
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@richy240

Yes, installing a P910 screen will probably fix the slight flicker problem. No guarantees though. The flicker really isn't that bad, and I've only seen it happen on about 50% of the conversions I've done (23 so far).

@oleeid

You will need to convert your P900 to a P910 to use 1GB MS Pro DUO cards when they come out. Currently the conversion causes some Bluetooth issues, but it's possible that these will be resolved in next few weeks (maybe less).

[ This Message was edited by: anlog on 2004-09-13 22:49 ]
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