| Author |
K850i vs N95 pic quality |
nettl
Joined: Oct 17, 2006
Posts: 89
PM |
You're a funny guy...such a big mouth, so little noteworthy output. Amazing! |
|
|
Bhavv
Joined: Jun 07, 2007
Posts: > 500
PM |
On 2007-11-06 20:10:03, nettl wrote:
You're a funny guy...such a big mouth, so little noteworthy output. Amazing!
Your giving great output yourself arent you? lol. |
mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
Posts: 416
From: Australia
PM |
On 2007-11-06 09:44:32, plankgatan wrote:
On 2007-11-05 21:09:44, yaniv84 wrote:
i think that the N73 take better pic then K850
here some examples:
look the vivid colors & the sharp details
[ This Message was edited by: yaniv84 on 2007-11-05 20:12 ]
[ This Message was edited by: yaniv84 on 2007-11-05 20:18 ]
vivid colors & the sharp details ?????
the third picture (in the first post) looks bleached (you cant even see the mountains) & the last pic is realy blurry.....
the second & the last pictures (one the last post), looks realy bleached (NO vivid colors there).....like i said before, even Nokias N-serie takes bad outdoor pictures time to time, (even its full daylight and perfect object
WHERE IS ALL LOW LIGHT, NIGHT & FLASH PICTURES FROM N95/N73 ????
maybe N82 will be the first Nokia phone with a good allround camera (it have xenon flash and (hopefully) it will manage low light, night & indoor pics.....thats the only Nokia phone who looks realy good i think...except for the white color)
i dont want a camera who only manage good pictures when its daylight...i want a camera who manage all environments !
_________________
I  k850i,  w810i &  T28
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-06 09:09 ]
MAN! Would it be to much for you to admit that those photos are actually quite good? You are the most amazing die hard SE fan I have ever come across. You must sleep with your phone. You continue to hide behind your reduced size images (and we all know why) and just can't admit that maybe another brand has pulled off some good shots. I bet you my membership on this forum that if you posted a few full res and totally unaltered versions of the images you have been posting that we would all see the same weaknesses in the K850 that many others are noticing. But, I’m sure you won't take up this challenge because you know we are right and you'd hate to be proven wrong. Or, is it worth the gamble to shut me up?
Out of interests sake I have read through some of your past posts. And guess what, you had the same habit of hiding behind reduced sized images with your K810 while proclaiming it was the best thing in world. Interestingly, the picture quality you were getting out of your K810 seems identical to what you are getting out of your k850. Even then you could not see the anti-aliasing issue that affects the K800/K810. So, it's no surprise you can't see the graininess and blurriness in the K850 images. You are just too plain loyal. Your comments are absolutely worthless because you are so biased towards your K850. You know it wouldn't hurt to actually criticise it a little - it can't be perfect.
Oh, you have no arguments from me about the K850 or K800 producing better night shots. But, this is not entirely true - quite often the K800 produces shots that are too dark when using the flash indoors under lights. And, LED flashes produce better results at night when doing close up shots. So, it's a double edge sword. I can show you some very good night time shots from my W800 if you like.
|
soane28
Joined: Jun 12, 2006
Posts: 401
From: NZ
PM |
so why bother? leave him to it, y does it matter if one person loves his phone? good for him.
i really dont get the point of arguing with someone to convert them to your thinking until your black and blue. Obviously plank is happy with the K850 regardless of whats true or not so why argue with him because hes not thinking like you?
Its like someone converting you from watever phone you like because they dont like it. Whats the point? you like it so who cares?!
I think its well over discussed by now, everyone knows which is best for their preferences. Gee leave it at that.
|
plankgatan
Joined: May 20, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: Sweden fur alle
PM |
On 2007-11-06 19:58:38, Bhavv wrote:
On 2007-10-28 07:21:00, mario2004 wrote:
For its size the k850i has a fairly small screen. Is closer to the 7650 then to the N95  Can't imagine surfing the net for long on that. For a nice BIG screen
The K850i's screen size is actually just fine for web browsing. It could be bigger yes, but who want to carry around a brick like an N95?
(Yes the N95 is a brick, open the keypad)
i dont want to brag about the screen..(i know some people thinks i do that). BUT please take a look at k850 screen sometime (special in sunshine)...its so damn crispy and have such a high contrast....ive never seen a more crispy screen..
(N95 screen is not bad ...but k850 have a clearer, brighter screen...
i know you cant prove everything with one image..(but there is a different between the brightness on both screens)...sure, N95 have a little bigger screen...but better ?? no way.....
_________________
I k850i, w810i & T28
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-06 23:34 ] |
croatia
Joined: Aug 06, 2003
Posts: > 500
From: zagreb croatia europe
PM |
i was owned n73me earlier this year and only what i can do with n73me camera is over painted pics on photo paper at the same time pics taken with k800 was looks more naturaly that's all
This message was posted from a A65 |
mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
Posts: 416
From: Australia
PM |
On 2007-11-07 00:13:20, soane28 wrote:
so why bother? leave him to it, y does it matter if one person loves his phone? good for him.
i really dont get the point of arguing with someone to convert them to your thinking until your black and blue. Obviously plank is happy with the K850 regardless of whats true or not so why argue with him because hes not thinking like you?
Its like someone converting you from watever phone you like because they dont like it. Whats the point? you like it so who cares?!
I think its well over discussed by now, everyone knows which is best for their preferences. Gee leave it at that.
I really don't mind that Plank loves his phone. Good for him and I'm glad he does. But I and others are getting a little tired of him proclaiming how good the images of the K850 are and only showing shrunken down versions of his photos. If he didn't openly criticise the quality of photo's from other camera's I probably wouldn't care - but he does so it is fair to retort and ask for proof. I'm not saying either phone is really better than the other but if Plank is going to make such strong statements he should back it up with more than doctored evidence. Forums are supposed to be fair and honest. Plank is not being fair, is showing heavy bias and is failing to deliver on past promises to provide proof - So far he has only posted one full size image and made it quite clear he used digital zoom which would cover for any imperfections in the image. If his images are really that good he could almost put the N95/K850 debate to rest by posting full res proof. I still don't know why he won't. There can only be one reason - they aren't that good. The opportunity to shut me up is there - post real proof, the majority of us will be honest if they are good – I assure you I will be.
I know some are tired of this but I think more of us are tired of seeing the continuing deception of people (not just plank) who post small images. It's a debate and people can argue their point all they like. If you don't like this don't join in.
People actually read these forums when looking at buying a new phone. I think it is extremely unfair to mislead people by giving them half the story by showing them photo's in reduced size. People may actually go out and buy the phone and then be extremely disappointed when the phone doesn't deliver - that was my experience with the K800. I would be extremely let down if I went out and bought a K850 based on bias shown here. You can love your product but don't be all accepting of it.
Lastly, I must give credit to spikeyjac who posted his images. He at least had the courage to post the full res version in the Easto Mobile Phone Camera Gallery. His images of the water fountain show just how big a difference there is between a reduced image and the full size image.
[ This Message was edited by: mongoose3800 on 2007-11-07 01:08 ] |
Nipsen
Joined: Jul 31, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: Noway
PM, WWW
|
Ooof. I read through the entire thread. Eerrkk.
*sigh* Look. On a tiny lens, you only have so much light to work with. So the different phones have different strategies to deal with that problem. So, for instance on the w800 you could take pretty good shots if you kept your hand steady for a couple of seconds, and had good light. Because that would exploit the fairly decent sensor and reduce the noise on the full picture, and typically avoid the blur most other camera- phones would have. But try to take a picture in a hurry, and it would look like shite. And obviously on short exposure it would be a typical camera- phone picture always, and not a particularly good one, either.
And the only reason to even consider putting a 5mp camera on a camera- phone without optical zoom, or quality lens and sensors - is to take better bar- shots through filtering and post- processing. To smooth out the hand- waving, and to avoid trailing on the flying beer- glasses, and so on.
So - question: is a phone- camera that takes a usable picture every five seconds really worth it - as a feature in a phone at this price? Was it worth the development of new clever algorithms to use together with the more expensive 5mp camera? Does it, through the clever post- processing, produce anything like what you are looking for? If it's the option to take quick and decent photos, or whether it's to carefully take clear photos with longer exposure on manual?
Or will you settle for a phone- camera that takes the same picture every time, no matter what you're shooting?
Or just say to hell with it and buy a cheap digital camera, so you can actually take relatively good pictures - without greenish and purple tint or cheesy noise- reduction filters, altered colours and blurs over the entire picture if you're lucky?
I mean, it's a customer- choice at it's very best, isn't it?
So can we just please dispense with all the crap and declare the entire cyber- shot thing an abysmal failure already, based on your purely subjective and ridiculous personal opinion about a goddamned /camera- phone/ - and then just move on? Thank you.
The p1 Whiki - report your bugs, and add feature requests here. "Brothers and Sisters, believe! Believe in the salvation of Demand Paging, 'eah!" |
mongoose3800
Joined: Nov 29, 2005
Posts: 416
From: Australia
PM |
Yep fine - I'm over it. I couldn't be bothered continuing on with this. It is just plain stupid. I know what I think and Plank and everyone else knows what they think. It is reaching the stage that everyone is starting to ridicule others opinion. I don't think anyone has meant to insult or hurt others - it certainly isn't my intention - there are too many people with valuable opinions and input. So, Plank and others, I hope you appreciate where I was coming from as I do appreciate where you are coming from. Let's all just agree to disagree.
On that basis I would like to suggest that a moderator lock this thread as you are right - it is going nowhere and many will never agree. |
gunsnroses
Joined: Feb 15, 2007
Posts: 62
PM |
I have no plans to buy either phone, i couldnt care less and im happy with my w610i with a modded cam driver, the cam is good enough for me. But i think this thread needs more full res pics or it should be locked, this is going nowhere posting images that have been shrinked, i could do the same thing with my phone to get pictures of the same quality. |
mib1800
Joined: Mar 18, 2004
Posts: > 500
PM |
On 2007-11-07 00:28:17, plankgatan wrote:
i dont want to brag about the screen..(i know some people thinks i do that). BUT please take a look at k850 screen sometime (special in sunshine)...its so damn crispy and have such a high contrast....ive never seen a more crispy screen..
(N95 screen is not bad ...but k850 have a clearer, brighter screen...
You are definitely bragging.  Arent you a bit NAIVE to put 2 photos taken separately to illustrate? There is no way to judge. Why dont I enlighten you with a photo where the 2 phones are shown side-by-side with the screen on.
I dont see K850 being brighter.
|
Dextrr
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
Posts: 279
From: New York
PM |
On 2007-11-07 09:44:05, mib1800 wrote:
I dont see K850 being brighter.
Wait! Let me get my microscope to find that non-existant-tiny 2.2in K850i screen!  |
plankgatan
Joined: May 20, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: Sweden fur alle
PM |
god such a aweful phone N95 is.. looks like a brick with big buttons on.....im so glad i never bought that piece of crap...
the Black N95 (8GB) looks light years better i think, even its a ugly N95 
no offend.............
_________________
I k850i, w810i & T28
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-07 10:01 ] |
gola
Joined: Jul 17, 2007
Posts: > 500
From: South Africa
PM |
if someone says their 3310 takes better photo's than somebody else's n95,then hey,it does
"Getting wisdom is the wisest thing you can do!"
Proverbs 4: 7 |
joemax
Joined: Nov 05, 2007
Posts: 130
PM |
I dont see K850 being brighter.
There's an ambient light sensor on the front of the K850 that after a second or two dims the screen or leaves it set at whatever level you decided in the Settings menu if the ambient light is bright.
Try it in the dark... very bright from unlock then the screen dims down. This is not the pre-dimming before the screen sleeps either 
|
|
|
Posted: 2007-11-06 20:10
