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slugworth
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Posted: 2006-08-08 00:19
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PM me your email addy n i shall email it to you
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kristianm
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Posted: 2006-08-08 06:58
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On 2006-08-07 08:58:43, mongoose3800 wrote:
KristianM: - That's a hard one to answer. It really comes down to your personal taste and what you are willing to tolerate. The Low Vol R1L is not that much changed from the original driver - I only changed 4 bits. I have done a little more playing around with the guts of the drivers but have not made any worthwhile progress - it really is guess work. Below is my experience of how each version of PHF_2_PLAY performs when added to original R1BC files:

Untouched RIBC: - Hissing/Static - Most noticiable at low vol. Offers best sound quality at max vol. Some songs distort with Megabass at max vol.

R1L: Hissing is gone, Distortion at max settings, terrible MegaBass. Does not match max vol of R1BC. I think it is more tinny as well.

AKSD's 1.2 Beta Driver: Hissing gone, Distortion still present at Max Vol, Megabass still distorts at max vol - may be a tad better than R1L - I really can't tell though.

PHF_2_PLAY Deleted: To me, the same results as using R1L or AKSD's beta Driver

My Low Vol Version of R1L: No Hissing, Max vol probably about the same as R1BC on 6 - 6.5 bars, best MegaBass performance.

My Loud Version of R1BC: This one is LOUD. This offers the loudest volume yet. But, it does not get rid of hissing/static. You will probably have to play around with the EQ and vol to get best sound quality for individual songs.

I hope that sums it up. I'd suggest you make up a small Playlist of songs containing songs you want to play loud and songs that you notice the hissing/static in. Then try each driver against these songs and decide which one you like best. That's what i'm doing.



Thanks for that summary.

A couple more questions, if it's okay:

1. Do these drivers also affect playback of movie files?

2. Do they also affect loudness of the ring tones / message tones?

I'd like to try your modified R1L-drivers, loudness doesn't matter much for me when playing songs because now I don't really like playing songs at max volume with my R1BC002 W800i. But I'm concerned if it'll lower the overall volume for movie files and ring tones as well.

Thanks again.

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Posted: 2006-08-08 07:50
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IMHO... i think your asking for a different file... this one is only intended for MP Playback...

try to look those files on the Acoustic folder using FAR. youll prolly hit one or two files which is intended for your query...

i think someone here told the technique in achieving your query, is like lookin for that specific acoustic file for SMS tones / Movie Playback etc etc... then basically renaming this Play2_PHF wachammacallit to that file then copy back to the acoustic folder... then there you go.. same volume for everyone...

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Posted: 2006-08-08 09:12
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KristianM: 1) Yes, with the headphones i think video playback is louder. 2) From my testing there is no impact on ringtone, sms alert, or any other playback throught the loud speaker. This would make sense as I'm pretty sure PHF_2_Play is a Personal Hands Free driver. So, only playback through the headphones will be changed.

I think the loud speaker ring and playback are controlled by a different set of files - at a quick glance, I would guess farfield_ring and Farfield_play. So, if these are the files I guess we may able apply similar changes and get louder speaker playback. If I'm feeling motivated I might play around one night. I don't think the Ring volume needs to be any louder.
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Posted: 2006-08-08 10:03
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how bout renaming PHF_2*.* to FarField_play*.* will that work?

so its like.. taking the specs of PHF_2_play to work with FarField_*.* Specs
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Posted: 2006-08-08 11:53
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rockygali: I don't think so. But, then again it might. In my early testing I tried renaming other files to PHF_2_Play and ended up with no sound. I think each set of drivers are set to send their output to the device they correspond to. I know some have renamed farfield_play to farfield_ring only to get lower volume ring tone but with supposedly better sound quality. Perhaps doing the reverse will give louder vol with playback. I just had a quick glance at farfield_play and I think I could increase the volume - if reacts the same way as PHF_2_play. Perhaps when I get some time I will give it a go. I'd like to have louder playback through the speaker as I find it a bit low. I'll let you know how I go.

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Posted: 2006-08-08 12:47
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ei.. since youve open up the loudspeakers... your PHF_2play really do give out louder outputs.... even in loudspeakers. its very noticeable.

oh well.. i just feel like saying it...

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Posted: 2006-08-08 13:35
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Really? I've got a mate with an untouched W800 and it sounds just as loud to me.
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Posted: 2006-08-08 13:44
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On 2006-08-07 17:20:23, aksd wrote:
http://rapidshare.de/files/28524869/PHF_2_play.apf.html

No Hissing and extremely loud.....you cant get louder than this. Thx to mongoose for finidng respective loudness bits. Next will try to eliminate the bass crackling.

Regards,
Akshay


I like it!
But the bass crackling is really annoying,i have the volume always ond his hardest and now i can't do that,i'll hope you fix that soon!

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Posted: 2006-08-08 15:38
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On 2006-08-08 13:44:39, DMarley wrote:
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On 2006-08-07 17:20:23, aksd wrote:
http://rapidshare.de/files/28524869/PHF_2_play.apf.html

No Hissing and extremely loud.....you cant get louder than this. Thx to mongoose for finidng respective loudness bits. Next will try to eliminate the bass crackling.

Regards,
Akshay


I like it!
But the bass crackling is really annoying,i have the volume always ond his hardest and now i can't do that,i'll hope you fix that soon!

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Mate, honestly - I don't know if this can be done. I actually think it may be a bit hard to get decent bass out of such small headphones. Just about every driver we have tried has probs with megabass. Even the original R1BC driver had probs with megabass. I think we may have hit the physical limits of the phone and the headphones. With a little bit of control over the vol and eq settings the end results are still better than the original drivers.

Oh, I have quickly played with farfield play and I have not really been able to get that much of an improvement. I may have gotten a small increase in speaker volume but it's really not worth the effort. To be honest I have no interest in persuing this. So, if someone feels like taking it on go for it.
kristianm
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Posted: 2006-08-08 16:54
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I finally installed one of the modified drivers, and I'm very very happy that it actually works! No more hissing!

Many thanks to aksd and mongoose3800 and the others who helped improve these 'acoustic' W800 files. I've been hating SE for a long time because of this hissing issue; finally I can give it a rest.

Thank God for FAR manager.
happykhan
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Posted: 2006-08-08 22:53
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@ mongoose3800
I do not agree with you that we have reached the physical limits of headphones ; here is how i deduced so:
I directly plugged the hpm-70 into my computer's sound card jack.
playing audio files with Windows Media Player , I exprienced really good bass quality with at least 20% louder volume.
YES , when u start playing with EQ of the WMP, then y will pass those limits, BUT with normal setting of EQ, I exprienced one of my life's best quality music listenings.
Just check it out yourself.
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Posted: 2006-08-09 01:37
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O.k. It might be a limit on the phone then? Or it might be a limit with the actual media player. Or, I might be wrong all together. I don't use Megabass that much so it doesn't bother me that much
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Posted: 2006-08-09 03:54
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yeah.. why use megabass when you can do it manually... adjust the equalizer..

IMHO its much better than megabass....
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Posted: 2006-08-09 04:09
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@ mongoose3800 & rockygali
there is 5 line in manual EQ.....
so how many bar u try up & down for best result on this driver ??
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