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batesie
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yep, so are there any org's or groups campaigning against the smoking ban?
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batesie
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some news on the ban....
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ne[....]/news/2007/07/02/nsmoke102.xml
Forest Online - Pro choice campaigners
http://www.forestonline.org/output/Page1.asp
and the director of Forest has a new Blog, called "Taking Liberties"
http://takingliberties.squarespace.com/
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Miss UK
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Give up or go outside thats what the government are saying,
they aren't taking anything away just yet but I do hope they stop sales of Cigarettes in this country eventually!
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batesie
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....like america tryed to ban alcohol and instead handed it to the criminals to sell and make money out of it?! will never happen.
Just wanted to quote (from a non smoker!) Simon Clark - Director, Freedom Organisation for the Right to Enjoy Smoking Tobacco (Forest)
"I think the smoking ban is going to have relatively little impact on public health.
"People say that 11,000 non-smokers die every year in the UK from passive smoking, and 600 of those are people who are allegedly exposed to smoke in the workplace.
"But these figures are estimates, calculations, they are not based on any hard evidence.
"If passive smoking is a risk to people's health, and it's a massive if, it's far more likely to be a risk in the home than in a well-ventilated bar or restaurant.
"And after the ban more people are going to smoke at home, so the ban could potentially make things worse.
"Of course it will help some people who wish to cut down or quit, but the reality is that very few people will.
"I don't smoke, but I'm overweight, and if I was asked, 'Do you want to lose weight?' of course I'd say yes, but that doesn't mean I'm actually going to do anything about it.
"Smokers are the same, they will often say, 'Yes I'd like to cut down a bit,' but the reality is the vast majority of them don't.
"And in Ireland, smoking rates are now exactly the same as they were before the ban there.
"So the idea that millions of people are going to give up smoking is fantasy."
Well its good for people to see both sides of the arguement...
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goldenface
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On 2007-07-02 17:54:15, miss uk wrote:
Give up or go outside thats what the government are saying,
they aren't taking anything away just yet but I do hope they stop sales of Cigarettes in this country eventually!
Of course they can still smoke in the house of commons.
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batesie
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yet you can still smoke in the house of commons bar, and any land or diplomatic buildings, where its technically not this countrys land... and there own laws apply.
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joebmc
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This country has now resulted to extremism; the first government ever to place a ban on public smoking was… wait for it… Adolf Hitler's!
Now were following suit, its really starting to piss me off, we don’t have a democracy. Its dictatorship now I tell ya.
Not one death certificate exists anywhere in the world stating death as passive smoking. I have asked may people if they knew/know someone with lung cancer who didn’t smoke or didn’t get it due to there job (asbestos and that). Not one person knew anyone!
All these studies on the impacts of passive smoking are financed by pharmaceutical companies, I wonder why? Maybe so they can sell us all there nicotine patches and anti depressants (they are the ones profiting from this ban, probably giving the government a back hander too).
As early as 1975, at a UN world conference on smoking and health, the British doctor and former chief medical officer, Sir George Godber, suggested that, in order to eliminate smoking,
“it would be essential to foster an atmosphere where it was perceived that active smokers would injure those around them, especially their families and any infants or young children”
And so the research began, not to discover the scientific truth but to support a lie!
NON-SMOKERS ALSO DIE AND NOT FROM PASSIVE SMOKING
(BTW I’m a smoker who chooses not to smoke, aka an ex smoker)
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goldenface
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Wouldn't surprise me in the least. They're always thinking of new ways to squeeze more money out of us. Next there will be passive drinking.
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batesie
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Miss UK
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Im just wondering with the news over the last few days with the attacks maybe the attackers aren't happy about the Smoking ban?
so have thrown there rattles out of there prams
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maggflodd
Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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On 2007-07-04 00:06:34, miss uk wrote:
Im just wondering with the news over the last few days with the attacks maybe the attackers aren't happy about the Smoking ban?
so have thrown there rattles out of there prams
how tasteless and yet
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A L 3 X
Joined: Dec 20, 2006
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From: Yorkshire Phone: iPhone 3G
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On 2007-07-03 14:49:56, batesie wrote:
yet you can still smoke in the house of commons bar, and any land or diplomatic buildings, where its technically not this countrys land... and there own laws apply.
yep, i heard if you get some declaration of your pub being an embassy of another country it means smoking can be allowed there and someone has actually done it, what a loophole!
as its my first appearance here, i dont smoke anymroe however used to like a year or 2 ago, kind of wondering whether or not to start again when i become of legal age to buy them 
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Miss UK
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On 2007-07-04 00:12:34, maggflodd wrote:
On 2007-07-04 00:06:34, miss uk wrote:
Im just wondering with the news over the last few days with the attacks maybe the attackers aren't happy about the Smoking ban?
so have thrown there rattles out of there prams
how tasteless and yet
Well things seemed fine a few days ago didn't they,
tbh tho I think there just testing the new government everytime new PM appears something happens not always straightaway mind 
have any of our members began with there Nicotinell course yet? 
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maggflodd
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On 2007-07-04 00:24:30, miss uk wrote:
On 2007-07-04 00:12:34, maggflodd wrote:
On 2007-07-04 00:06:34, miss uk wrote:
Im just wondering with the news over the last few days with the attacks maybe the attackers aren't happy about the Smoking ban?
so have thrown there rattles out of there prams
how tasteless and yet
Well things seemed fine a few days ago didn't they,
tbh tho I think there just testing the new government everytime new PM appears something happens not always straightaway mind
have any of our members began with there Nicotinell course yet?
I stopped going to irish pubs because of the drinkers, not the smokers  there's your passive alcohol, goldenface!
the joke is: nicotinell etc etc all DO EXACTLY THE SAME DAMAGE TO YOUR HEART! Those studies were sooo suppressed, it's laughable! Skin-patches... Our skin evolved over millions of years not to let shit in, and they design a way to deliver one of the most powerful herbicides right through it, and call it the healthy alternative!
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Miss UK
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lol maybe the best way to give up is suck a lemon then
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