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anonymuser
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I just don't understand the big deal about SE replacing/replicating so much WM functionality like messages, contacts etc. The built in WM applications are absolutely fine, rock solid in reliability, and feature rich. Why replace them? Why waste resources on fixing problems that aren't there?
I've been using the Tytn II for several months now, it's the first WM phone I've had after years with UIQ (using apps which SE presumably approve of) and I wouldn't swap it for anything right now. My next phone will most definitely be Windows Mobile, but it won't be the X1 if they're really going to such great lengths to hide the functionality I need. Apart from anything, I have absolute faith in the apps which MS have put together, and absolutely none in SE's efforts, which will doubtless look nice but be full of bugs. At the end of the day, having a contact manager that works, is fast, syncs reliably and perfectly etc, is all a hell of a lot more important to me than having one that comes with purple stripes and a 3D effect.
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aksd
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The messaging app is the same thing on WM6.1, saw the screenshots at BengalBoy, wonder how certain persons on this forum though otherwise.
Like you said Boinng this is my first WM phone as well and I really dont feel the need to change platform, it does everything I require it to. |
anonymuser
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I did wonder about the "extremely improved" messaging app, but haven't had the chance to check the screenshots - it would make sense that this is just the same threaded mode that's come to existing WM handsets (like our kaiser's) with the 6.1 update. The only surprise is that the X1 didn't already have that, since I assumed it was based on prototype 6.1 from the outset.
I'm sure the X1 will benefit(?) from a few nice SE additions, but I sincerely hope they don't try too hard to hide the fact that this is a WM phone, because it's nothing to be ashamed of. I'd want to be able to ditch the panels quickly, on demand, and not have to fight my way through them all the time to get to the business end. This is a phone for grownups after all (hopefully!)
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NightBlade
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On 2008-06-23 17:41:38, Dogmann wrote:
This is not disputable it is quite simply fact if you can't understand it i give up as your really just not worth the effort. If there is one thing i can't stand it's a sniveling little liar and that is exactly what you are. So so long and have fun with your imaginary abilities the X1 will have.
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aksd
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On 2008-06-23 18:36:10, Boinng wrote:
I did wonder about the "extremely improved" messaging app, but haven't had the chance to check the screenshots - it would make sense that this is just the same threaded mode that's come to existing WM handsets (like our kaiser's) with the 6.1 update. The only surprise is that the X1 didn't already have that, since I assumed it was based on prototype 6.1 from the outset.
I'm sure the X1 will benefit(?) from a few nice SE additions, but I sincerely hope they don't try too hard to hide the fact that this is a WM phone, because it's nothing to be ashamed of. I'd want to be able to ditch the panels quickly, on demand, and not have to fight my way through them all the time to get to the business end. This is a phone for grownups after all (hopefully!)
Yes very strange, unless on the earlier unit nothing actually worked  .
I dont think they'd try to hide its a WM phone, since they want to get a piece of the WM market thats growing day by day. Like I mentioned earlier I have spoke to certain persons who have used the phone, and the panels is like an app, comaparable to Dynamo 2 but with a lot more eyecandy and the SE panels link to preset apps rather than running apps. I'm sure we can remap the X Panel to the start menu as usual, which I do use quite a bit, I'd rather change a soft key tothe panel rather than the Start Menu button. But I think SE have done this to make those people initimidated by WM feel a little less intimidated if you get what I mean. Like I mentioned earlier the SE X1 is brilliant for us WM addicts as it would increase the number of WM phones out there, making more apps available and more devs releasing complete applications.
A wee bit OT, Boinng did you see the latest graphic driver implementations on the TyTn II, if it is released to us then we can easily pull on with our units till WM7 releases. I hope we get them quick .
Seems like Android is delayed to late Q4, so I guess thats out.
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anonymuser
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Yep, hope (and expect) you're right about the panels.
On the OT, I've not seen the videos but have read the news, definitely looking good - tbh I'm already in no great hurry to trade up, the Tytn II is a great all-round device and it may well be about to get better 
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londonlad123
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I would prefer Se does provide its solution to messaging, contacts, calender etc. I guess the main reason is marketing from Se's point of view. But for us, Wm isn't easy to use without a stylus, its not pretty to look at and doesn't have some useful features like a recent list, etc.
Not saying that the X1 will have these new features and ease but that could be the only aim. Unfortunately, we know that Se's panels won't be particularly useful not the ones I've seen.
Personally, I would be happy with a text messaging panel that makes it possible to send a text single handedly with a on screen keypad, recent list and as few presses as possible. A more interactive MSN one and a decent finger friendly homescreen.
Se might be happy telling us the time in 10 different ways with 10 different panels though. |
C905
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On 2008-06-23 17:41:38, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
Forget the panels quotes as quite simply when the device is launched you will see despite everyone explaining it to you that you are wrong.
Now as for my E90 doesn't record in VGA 30fps H.264 even Chombos pointed out this to you. You are wrong and every device with the OMAP 2420 does from the first being the N93 then the N95 and N95 8GB and now the E90. Which is why such a big deal was made about again if you read the review clip i posted it said from 3gp being the lowest to 30fps VGA Mp4.
This is not disputable it is quite simply fact if you can't understand it i give up as your really just not worth the effort. If there is one thing i can't stand it's a sniveling little liar and that is exactly what you are. So so long and have fun with your imaginary abilities the X1 will have.
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Damn what anger
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d-southwest
Joined: Apr 30, 2008
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Thanks for all your comments
You all are doing a great job defending your rights
But like Humble said be nice to each other.
Do fight over a (maybe)great mobile that isnt even out damn it!!!
But i have another question
I tried to contact BengalBoy on his web ( im a member), but i dont know to post a question on his site!!!!!!
So can someone post a question for me or can give me advice how to ost it?
( my question is what are the settings of the music and video player + will there be also a second media player on it?)
Thanks and peace out !!! |
d-southwest
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On 2008-06-23 23:25:36, d-southwest wrote:
Thanks for all your comments
You all are doing a great job defending your rights
But like Humble said be nice to each other.
Dont fight over a (maybe)great mobile that isnt even out damn it!!!
But i have another question
I tried to contact BengalBoy on his web ( im a member), but i dont know to post a question on his site!!!!!!
So can someone post a question for me or can give me advice how to ost it?
( my question is what are the settings of the music and video player + will there be also a second media player on it?)
Thanks and peace out !!!
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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-23 23:25:36, d-southwest wrote:
...I tried to contact BengalBoy on his web ( im a member), but i dont know to post a question on his site!!!!!!
So can someone post a question for me or can give me advice how to ost it?
( my question is what are the settings of the music and video player + will there be also a second media player on it?)
Once you are logged in (near the top left of any page), you should be able to hit reply at the bottom of any post or page to enter your own post. It's pretty much like any forum just maybe not as clearly laid out |
d-southwest
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To WhyBe
Thanks G 
Peace |
mario2004
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Hey chaps, Please leave the kid alone - he is only 14 ! (WhyBe) Although he pretendes to be much older - Back on topic - the OMNIA really looks like a nice competition to Htc. I believe the chap talking about a 'upgraded' Xperia (i). Htc won't let Samsung be on top . If only SE can sort out their branding - we should have had the cell out by now. Never the less - Htc has to bring out the 'upgraded' version to keep up with the competition. Such is the development. It will be interesting to see which one comes out first - my money is on OMNIA (for now)
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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-23 05:27:45, mario2004 wrote:
@WhyBe Sorry bud,what you are saying it just doesn't add up You seem confused. Are you sure it was the 2-nd and not the 1-st of April you joined this forum? if I were you,I would run away and hide bud.
On 2008-06-24 02:51:54, mario2004 wrote:
Hey chaps, Please leave the kid alone - he is only 14 ! (WhyBe) Although he pretendes to be much older - Back on topic - the OMNIA really looks like a nice competition to Htc. I believe the chap talking about a 'upgraded' Xperia (i). Htc won't let Samsung be on top . If only SE can sort out their branding - we should have had the cell out by now. Never the less - Htc has to bring out the 'upgraded' version to keep up with the competition. Such is the development. It will be interesting to see which one comes out first - my money is on OMNIA (for now)
Who ARE you?  
It's not my fault X1 is shaping up to be such a nice phone (the truth really does hurt, I guess).
So much mis-guided aggression around here.
You haters need SE_X1 for all that aggression. |
Nitro Fan
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So does anyone actually know when this thing will be available on the UK networks?
I have owned the ... T68i T610, P800, P900, P910, P990, W950, P1, W960 But SE have now totally lost the plot. | |
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