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P900 - P910 possible! AMAZING news! |
gbrooks3
Joined: Jun 02, 2003
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This is not illegal and yes people like myself who have the tools to upgrade all phones have paid for it.
by the way i have some news about the bluetooth. it seems there is a problem in the HF configuration of the phones GDFS which causes this bug.
operations are already in motion to fix this and a solution will not be long. |
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Jabe
Joined: Nov 08, 2003
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From: Slovenia
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Yupee! So this is fixable!
In the mean time: what do HF and GDFS mean?
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zusstin
Joined: Sep 06, 2004
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gbrooks3 always seems to have some good news for others. i was kindda taken back when i heard that BT wont be *exactly* working as it shud. anyways, that may not be the case anymore and its good to know that.
i wish i could contribute to the work you (gbrooks3) are doing - unfortunately i have *no idea* what work you are doing - as i am not familier with that piece of technology. if you need a piece of code in assembly language, i am game.... |
boom713
Joined: Apr 02, 2004
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hey guys can anyone get the price of pirated fighter for flashing p900.
This message was posted from a P900 |
petrutms
Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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From: Cluj Napoca, Romania
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i heard that is some flickering on screen after upgrade, is it true? or only on some handsets? is easy to see the screen flicker or not? strange, the refresh rate on lcd should not be affected... |
msa
Joined: Feb 14, 2003
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From: Bahrain
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whats illegal!!, first of all I didnt see companies selling FW's and since you bought the phone its yours and up to you if you wanna void the warranty or not.. there is nothing illegal in installing another FW |
P800_Zen_master
Joined: Apr 01, 2003
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On 2004-09-13 16:01:25, msa wrote:
whats illegal!!, first of all I didnt see companies selling FW's and since you bought the phone its yours and up to you if you wanna void the warranty or not.. there is nothing illegal in installing another FW
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Like I said, I could be very wrong, I didnt know the FW were for free. I know the updates are for free. Just like how you get updates with XP. But your changing the whole Operating system, like win98-winXP.
But hey, I guess I was wrong. |
petrutms
Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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what about screen flickering? |
gbrooks3
Joined: Jun 02, 2003
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nope, no screen flickering.
@zusstin
i dont think it is right i should take any credit for this nor should anlog. Although we both know alot about firmware (alog more than i) we did not make it. This whole thing is only possible because of the top programmer on the fighter team.
i am meerly a messenger. |
petrutms
Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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From: Cluj Napoca, Romania
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good that is no flickering on screen! i cant wait for the fix for bt. Tomorrow i'll flash to p910a, buying a new phone (p910i)is a waste of money. |
a_p_a_n_d_e_y
Joined: Jun 07, 2004
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From: Bangalore, India
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Illegal = something which has a law against it
Which implies that there is some law enforcement agency which does the policing job or intends to do so.
When you buy a laptop, there are two things involved. The hardware itself and a third party software. Both are components sold independently (though most people feel they just pay for hardware)
When you change the OS, there is nothing you do that is illegal as far as the hardware vendor is concerned. You have bought the hardware and you are free to do whatever you want with it. So if you remove win and install linux, its ok. However, if u install win xp in place of win 95, there are issues. You will need to ensure that you have license to use win xp. The enforcement here is in form of the license you accept while installing windows. The enforcer is microsoft since they lose money.
For SE... first they never have a license for their firmware (do they mention anything. In fact I have never come across any firmware which is bound by licensing terms). As a consumer I am just installing linux on my phone. If the hardware supports it, its all OK. As for the linux in question, if you ever get a version of OS which looks like win xp but doesnt refer to microsoft anywhere and doesnt show any license; then the onus of any illegal installation lies with the source which provided the OS; that too when MS can prove that it is win xp.
Another twist here is that if SE tries to contest this, they might even be dragged into a legal conflict of intentionally not providing the device to their full potential. Remember, immediate updates to OS software are provided, even if they involve some nominal cost. Mostly you dont have to change your laptop to get a new OS. So max that SE can ask for is a nominal price for a new firmware (however no company has till date sold firmware as far as I know), but cant contest otherwise.
Thats what differentiates software from firmware.
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gbrooks3
Joined: Jun 02, 2003
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wow, you should be lawyer.
and also SE release firmware freely themselves via the online update service.
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getagrip15
Joined: Oct 03, 2003
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I hope there's a fix soon. I'm about to bust at the seams. I would do it now, but I can't see myself sacrificing my poor little HBH-600.
gbrooks3... do you know what they are trying to fix with the BT? are the trying to fixed the new BT stuff, or revert back to the regular P900 BT? |
gbrooks3
Joined: Jun 02, 2003
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no reverting back wont happen, i doubt it will make any difference. Also i believe the same problem has been reported on a real p910i phone so i think its a teething problem that all.
http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27758
have no fear i am sure this will be fixed for both converted phones and the real thing.
[ This Message was edited by: gbrooks3 on 2004-09-13 16:32 ]
[ This Message was edited by: gbrooks3 on 2004-09-13 16:37 ] |
getagrip15
Joined: Oct 03, 2003
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gbrooks3...
in your opinion, and i know it's probably hard to estimate, how long do you think it'll take to fix the problem and get a new version ready for flashing? Also, have you flashed any phones back to original p900 firmware? does everything function normally once flashed back? |
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