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Dogmann
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Posted: 2008-07-02 12:50
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@Carkitter

As i said most support 3.6mbps now but many new phones that are coming will support 7.2mbps but just from a quick look at Expansys.

Already released devices that support 7.2mbps HSDPA are

HTC Touch Diamond
MWg Atom V

and in the coming soon section is

HTC Touch Pro
LG SH 150n
SE Experia X1

A quick scan of Google aso showed the Moto Z8M which will suppport 7.2mbps HSDPA and there was an interesting post about Telestra launching there 7.2mbps HSDPA Network soon.

Most Networks have at least 3.6mbps HSDPA and will support 7.2mbps HSDPA shortly so whilst a lot of current devices support 3.6mbps. A lot of the new devices coming will be supporting 7.2mbps which is the future of mobile data and just so much faster than 384kbps 3G.

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Telstra Australia have already launched 7.2mbps afaik.

and there are a few handsets supporting this that they offer. they have been available for a while now...

some of these phones arent released anywhere else. like the samsung a811 for example:
http://www.samsung.com/au/con[....]el_cd=MUGA811HSSXSA&fullspec=F


sorry for off topic, just pointing out 7.2mbps is available here.
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Posted: 2008-07-02 13:11
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Telstra use the 850Mhz for 3g and hsdpa which is why they use these strange phones. I had a Samsung A-somethign-or-other for a while with the Telstra branding and they do work very well

I guess this is also why Telstra are taking the iphone 3g on board as it supports 850mhz 3g hsdpa as well as the more common 2100mhz and 1900mhz 3g bands
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Posted: 2008-07-02 13:33
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Does the iphone 3g support adobe flash now?
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no, but there is a rumour that adobe are going to make one themselves, now that the SDK is available
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thats the reason i wont get a phone through Telstra. Since there range is quite limited. Also limited to their own phones, like the samsung a series. And they customise too much now.

Would have been a lot easier using 1900 or 2100 band for hsdpa. but theres no denying its one of the worlds best networks, technically speaking.

I read some where they are expecting 40mbps speeds by next year sometime. Not sure how reliable it was though...

sorry for off topic again
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yeah, telstra are supposed to have 21mbps by end of 2008 and 42mbps in 2009... and all done on Ericsson equipment!

I read a story about some Telstra exec saying the iphone 3g would be able to utilise this but that clearly won't be the case

in fact I don't think even now there is any handset available that can use more than 7.2mbps
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Ooh i can't wait for this now, just want o2 to confirm the payt pricing for the 16gb iPhone.
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On 2008-07-02 13:42:21, >500 wrote:
@masseur

thats the reason i wont get a phone through Telstra. Since there range is quite limited. Also limited to their own phones, like the samsung a series. And they customise too much now.

Would have been a lot easier using 1900 or 2100 band for hsdpa. but theres no denying its one of the worlds best networks, technically speaking.

I read some where they are expecting 40mbps speeds by next year sometime. Not sure how reliable it was though...

sorry for off topic again



HSDPA does use 2100 band doesnt it?
New Zealand announced they using 900 aswell for HSDPA.
We have HSDPA 7.2 in Johannesburg South Africa. I think HSDPA max can reach 14MBs after that its Wimax, 50 - 75Mbs.
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HSDPA is part of the UMTS standard and can be utilised on any band that UMTS is created for.

I believe HSDPA provides speeds up to 14.4mbps and from there to 42mbps its called HSPA+ but I've not taken much time to read up on that yet
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yes hsdpa runs on 2100 band too.

Just Telstra's runs on the 850 band.

its the only network that uses it in Aus. thats why its handset range is quite different to other networks here.

also, as masseur said, hsdpa speeds are said to be capable of 40(or there abouts)mbps
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quick question, does anyone think that you'll be able to buy the iPhone 3G in Dubai in this month??
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I just recieved email this morning from O2 about what to do next for pre ordering the iphone. They said one per customer which is fair.
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Posted: 2008-07-03 12:31
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On 2008-07-02 12:50:30, Dogmann wrote:
@Carkitter

...Most Networks have at least 3.6mbps HSDPA and will support 7.2mbps HSDPA shortly so whilst a lot of current devices support 3.6mbps. A lot of the new devices coming will be supporting 7.2mbps which is the future of mobile data and just so much faster than 384kbps 3G.

Marc

I'm well aware of that. In my experience one gets approx 1/3 of the quoted maximum speed so the iPhone and other 3.6Mbps HSDPA devices won't be restricted by hardware until the networks offer 14.4Mbps.
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Posted: 2008-07-03 12:53
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Well my experience is more like 2/3rds of the possible speed but then this is improving all the time. As 7.2mbps is implemented it should mean greater or maximum speeds for 3.6mbps devices which is all good and just so much faster than 3G which leads to a better user experience.

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