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soane28
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@soane28
If you don't like what many of us say don't read it and if your happy with SE's offerings and how they treat you good for you. But obviously many of us still don't feel the same way and from the above statement it appears to be affecting their bottom line now so maybe this will make them wake up and change although some how i doubt it.
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Your assuming im happy with SE and the way they treat me. I havent owned one in a year due to their continuing attitude in 08. All im suggesting is that SE are finding themselves in hot water more often, without further comments and IMO it is best to support other brands that align themselves with your standards. What will bring down SE more so than not buying their products or not continuing to use them? I understand and respect you have a different perspective but just putting it out there. |
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Nipsen
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On 2008-03-25 16:38:22, Boinng wrote:
(...)and concentrate on joint WM projects like the X1 - at least that OS is here, working, and up to date.
Oh, you were so close - before you blew it this time.
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anonymuser
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On 2008-03-25 16:58:44, Nipsen wrote:
Oh, you were so close - before you blew it this time.
No, I really didn't. Because while you're trying to score cheap shots like this, and the P5 languishes in vapourware, Windows Mobile is out there servicing and supporting full speed HSDPA, GPS, Wifi G, Edge, VGA, every network band under the sun, and a host of other essentials that can't be found in any UIQ phone to date. And yes, it's reliable, stable, and has better memory management than UIQ to boot. Think on 
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Pochi
Joined: Mar 06, 2008
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I've been out with my friends today and i 1 of them just bought the iPhone and i must say it has the best UI i ever saw in a mobile phone (Smart or Normal), it's just how the Symbian UIQ should be like, it's more simple and fun then the symbian UIQ and smoother and that bring a huge compition between the OS Programmers Companies (i.e. symbian, etc.) which i hope it
has an advantage on them specially on the new UIQ platform (the 4th) in the near future.
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max_wedge
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I agree that it's a shame SE have dropped the ball on HSDPA in UIQ. But as to why people buy new phones? Primarily they go by appearance. Very few people out there really use a phone to it's full capacity and if it can play music, take photos and make calls they are happy.
Point 1: HSDPA doesn't need a Smartphone to be useful
SE's failure in HSDPA and hig end phones (which I agree is a problem for us tech heads) is well over-compensated for by the huge choice of low to mid end phones they have which ARE solid and reliable and also stylish and appealing in their appearance. And there are mid range phones that support HSDPA. In Nokialand, where most phones are s60, you get trapped into thinking that HSDPA = smartphone, but in the real world, end users can benefit just as much from HSDPA on a A100 phone as they can on a s60. Honestly how many average end users do you know who really use their s60 phone as an application platform? Very few. Even those who do, on A100 you can multi-task the java VM, and you can get skype, msn, opera etc in JAVA form as well as Sybian. So for the average user, and even many power users, A100 and A200 phones are powerful enough platforms to satisfy.
Point 2: Expanding the mid range market
For myself I agree with you guys; I want SE to get back to producing hot high end UIQ phones. But SE have decided their philisophy for now is to expand the midrange, and this is what they are concentrating on. I think SE where languishing when they didn't have a strong midrange segment. They stood to go nowhere and if they had concentrated instead on UIQ high end phones they would have remained a small and exclusive high end company with no broad market appeal.
Point 3: SE have some innovative low and mid-range handsets
To say SE have no good phones is completely wrong. They have many mid range and low end phones that are strongly appealing to the average end user. W910 is a good example. This is a funky, cool and very good looking phone. There are many other examples of A100 phones even that are shit hot looking with great features for the price.
It's only the UIQ segment that is suffering badly. You guys are blowing it way out of perspective.
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anonymuser
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Max, you might have a point if phones like the K850 and W910 had been great successes, but that's questionable. They've both had a slightly lukewarm response as far as I can see, partly because they lack any smarts, and partly because they've both suffered from a number of serious bugs (operation failed, anyone?) - if that's really the best SE can do at the moment, then it's still something to worry about IMO.
Nobody is suggesting that SE should devote all their efforts on a handful of high-end phones, but if they want to be seen as competitive with the likes of Nokia then they need to have a reasonable presence across the board, which should include at least one aspirational device that makes a statement about what SE is really capable of - at the moment, they haven't got that, it's mid range all the way, including the P1 and W960.
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max_wedge
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I think most of the mid range A100 handsets are bug free, good value, high spec'd for their market position, stylish and innovative formfactors.
However it's true A200 (W910 and K850) is off to a bad start. Hopefully the next A200 phones will have sorted those initial teething problems. Then the mid range will have been consolidated.
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13chanty1
Joined: Mar 25, 2008
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NO WAY NO WAY! SE RULZ!
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makbil
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Not the right place to be a cheerleader. If you have some facts we'd be glad to hear them otherwise you'd just be making noise...
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Keiki
Joined: Mar 27, 2008
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Hmmm... My k850 working legit @R1EA031
No complaint here 
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makbil
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@Keiki, you must be one of the lucky ones.My friend had 3 replacements until he gave up and got another phone.
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ocean21
Joined: Nov 30, 2007
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I wonder why so many people got a lot of problems in their k850, my brother's k850 works perfectly fine and haven't encountered any bugs. When he bought it I scared that he would be dissapointed w/ massive bugs but no problem at all. Maybe lucky....
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Pochi
Joined: Mar 06, 2008
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I miss  old days (P800+ and W800+ days until 2007) that was when was the ruler of the mobile phone industry in term of the hardware functions.
Please bring back that Era!
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makbil
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Very unlikely given the current state SE is in - unfortunately.
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max_wedge
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On 2008-04-02 11:20:30, makbil wrote:
Very unlikely given the current state SE is in - unfortunately.
P5, The new holy grail to save SE's exclusive high end! You never know... 
But I'm an optimist, I reckon SE might just pull a rabbit out of the hat with the P5... 
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Posted: 2008-03-25 16:56
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
