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Posted: 2010-02-04 15:46
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@Boinng

I wasn't trying to discredit you by posting that link it was just a coincidence. I was just posting relevant news like I always try to do. The X10 still might not become available on T-Mobile until very late Q1.

I'm hoping the mobiletoday article is right when it said it would begin shipping on 1st March.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 15:57
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I agree with Boinng on all counts.

For SE's sake the X10 had better be relatively stable cause they have no more chances left. A bad X10 will be their death cause surely no one except the hardcore fanboys will still believe in them anymore, even the fanboys will likely give up on them should they mess up this time. If the Vivaz's price is acceptable and it is stable followed by a stable X10 then they will have a very good second quarter and hopefully a good year provided there are some decent phones to come from them.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 16:23
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Can someone please help me with some PC drivers for X10.
PLEASE!!!!!

I need to connect it trouch PC suite or something as the PC doesn's recognize the phone's internal memory.
Much appreciated.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 16:28
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On 2010-02-04 13:46:03, alexander87 wrote:
Now kinda iffy with the sound formats supported.
No m4a for my iTunes podcasts.


According to white paper X10 supports m4a.
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2010-02-04 15:29 ]
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Posted: 2010-02-04 17:48
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What?? Both SE and Moto are in dire straits. Moto are worse given they have concurred losses over the past two years and has had losses this quarter inspite of the MILESTONE being a huge success. I would say Moto with virtually no releases last year would be more prepared to have multiple teams working over Android than SE who is working over 4 OSes.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 18:07
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@se_dude - you're just making excuses. SE are working over four OS's because that's what they chose to do - it's a deliberate strategy. Personally I think it's the wrong strategy, I've been saying so for a while, and I think events of the past few months bear that out. Through the whole of 2009, while touchscreen smartphones were riding high, SE managed to release just one smartphone onto the market - the Satio - and even that was in such a poor state that retailers embarrased them by withdrawing it.

The X2 was delayed so long that at least one major network lost interest and dropped it. The X10 is now rapidly approaching its own generous deadline, still saddled with an ageing version of its OS that gets pointed out in every review and preview of the phone. SE are proving the point that they don't have the resources to develop across four platforms simultaneously while actually getting good product out the door in a timely manner, while Moto - however worse a situation they may have come from - are at least getting class-leading smartphones out there in peoples hands, as per their intention.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 18:25
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Yea, I believe SE is spread too thin. I think they should drop Symbian and focus efforts on Android (multimedia) - WinMo (businessclass/multimedia) and whatever their feature phone platform is to shore up the mid/low end range. I think developing on Symbian + Android and WinMo is redundant. These constant layoffs aren't helping either.

@alexander87 is their no option on the phone to put the device in mass storage mode like other SE devices?
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Posted: 2010-02-04 18:52
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Why are you trying to divert from the topic? Moto have had no releases last season and are still in a state of draught which is worse off than SE.They have had 3 major releases over the last 1 and a half years and had plenty of time to be developing software for latter versions of Android.They dont spend much time for their customers either. Most milestone users in Europe are fed up with their ASS and are pledging to give Moto a miss in the near future. Also, Moto has had much experience from the MILESTONE and should have released the Devour with a frontline OS. SE are new to the Android sene and are playing it safe with a stable OS. Moto on the other hand, should have raised the barrier.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 19:13
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@mreman4k

Personally I believe Android + Symbian + OSE are the OSes SE should focus on and drop WinMo. With just 9% of the market share after several years I don't see any big boost for the resource hog WinMo anytime soon.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 19:20
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On 2010-02-04 18:52:06, se_dude wrote:
Why are you trying to divert from the topic? Moto have had no releases last season and are still in a state of draught which is worse off than SE.They have had 3 major releases over the last 1 and a half years and had plenty of time to be developing software for latter versions of Android.They dont spend much time for their customers either. Most milestone users in Europe are fed up with their ASS and are pledging to give Moto a miss in the near future. Also, Moto has had much experience from the MILESTONE and should have released the Devour with a frontline OS. SE are new to the Android sene and are playing it safe with a stable OS. Moto on the other hand, should have raised the barrier.


The Devour is not aimed at a crowd where having Android 2.X is a priority (see Motorola Cliq crowd)..the Droid/Milestone was. Sony Ericsson is aiming at the Droid crowd with the X10 with Android 1.6 (and losse mentionings of a 2.X upgrade). Fortunately for SE, it has its UX to cover up the fact that its still Android 1.6
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Posted: 2010-02-04 19:29
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On 2010-02-04 19:13:20, Arne Anka wrote:
@mreman4k

Personally I believe Android + Symbian + OSE are the OSes SE should focus on and drop WinMo. With just 9% of the market share after several years I don't see any big boost for the resource hog WinMo anytime soon.



Yea true. But Symbian doesn't have the software ecosystem to be wildy successful. It kind of exists in a vacuum. Googe has all of its web services it leverages on the Android platform. Apple has iTunes/App Store. Microsoft has the potential to have Zune/Xbox services not to mention its business platform (Microsofft Exchange). Whatever Symbian has or will have will to come from SE/Nokia, which I don't see happening. I think if they can execute on the WinMo platform (especially with the imminent launch of WinMo 7) there is more upside to keep WinMo and drop Symbian.

Thats just my opinion, either way, four OSes is too much for SE.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 19:40
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Come on se_dude!

The Moto Devour is a midrange phone for those who can't afford the Milestone so the version of the os is not as relevant considering what it offers. There's bound to be a Moto with a 'fronline os' as you put it along the line. Moto and SE are indeed in trouble but Moto don't carry with them a very tarnished image and are releasing phones at a quicker pace than SE which are also not overpriced. The Milestone has software issues but not enough to be pulled off the shelves like the flagship Satio. Even the Nexus One has issues which was expected. The X10 is likely to have issues even with SE 'playing safe' with Android 1.6 so don't be quick to harshly judge the Milestone.

Why do you almost always defend SE by including another manufacturer?
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Posted: 2010-02-04 19:57
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I am not including another manufacturer. I am just trying to prove that the whole v2.0 saga is a overhyped piece of shit. No customized OS has received an update yet and nor will the X10. It will over a period of time. Even the X2 will be upgraded to WM6.5.3 in due course. And Moto doesnt have a tarnished image? Moto was down in the gloom and it suddenly came up out of nowhere. No handsets whatsover over the last couple of years. What kind of image does it portray? The satio was pulled but was put back on shelves. There are phones that are pulled but not each of them are publicized. The Pixon12 which was hyped so much has disappeared off the shelves without a trace.The MILESTONE is a google experience phone btw.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 20:11
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@alexander87 is their no option on the phone to put the device in mass storage mode like other SE devices?


You have the mount option like all Android devices.
Which mounts the memory card not the internal one unfortunately.

Been searching but no results, PC suite doesn't recognize it too.
Oh and i'm sure...no m4a on the build I have.
Unable to play it...I'm not talking out of my a** you know. :/

Oh and the sound quality paired with the Sennheiser CX300II is SUPERB.
Also one iPhone user friend approved..sooo quite good I might say.
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Posted: 2010-02-04 20:13
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I do know what a Google experience phone is.

Moto doesn't have as tarnished an image as SE. They had phones that were not competing and relied too much on the razr for far too long while SE has had build quality and software issues for so long that their reputation has gone down badly. From the early days of the P990, K850, C905, W910i, etc, they always struggled more than Moto that the Satio debacle made them look completely incompetent in software engineering.

The problem with SE's phones being 'hyped' is because they have a bad history of both software and build quality. I know a couple of other phones, N96, N97, that should have been pulled off but the problem is Nokia can, at this stage, afford 'faulty' phones cause the have a very strong brand and SE don't.
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