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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-18 10:09:19, Humble wrote:
...Sony Ericsson have to really look to the Gods for guidance and pray that the NEXT GEn are seriously delayed and come out late 2009, The next iteration for the Xperia will have to be the following year (2009) just to keep up, The Time frame seems too compressed for such a revision...
For all we know, the "X2" is in development right now and will be based on the Next-Gen platform.
If someone does release a Next-Gen so soon in 2009, who would release it? RIM, HTC, SE, Apple, Samsung, etc. are all releasing their top products right now. Maybe, due to price-points, the first iteration of next-gen phones will be mid-range because fully featured ones would cost too much. Another factor is that software must be developed to take advantage of Next-Gen hardware.
Hmmm, something to think about...
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mediar
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I think X2 should use Windows Mobile 7.0, not Mindows Mobile 6.1.
The best mobile phone brand died with Sony Ericsson's death. Shame on you Sony for killing it! And, of course, for ruining the Xperia brand... Mediar's Site |
Yakkaimono
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@ Mediar
The successor of the X1 can also use UIQ. |
Dogmann
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@WhyBe
The next generation devices are already well under development to think otherwise is just unrealistic and you missed NOKIA in that list. Who although only releasing a mid range touch device this year have more and higher spec devices coming H1 2009. HTC will have WM7 early 2009 as will most of the other manufacturers and if not WM7 they will have devices based on next Generation chip's.
SE just don't release follow up premium devices so fast and never have done, you can expect at least a Year before you see an upgrade. Anyway who's going to by an upgrade to their expensive device only a matter of months later? We are not talking a $100 throw away phone here but a $1000+ device.
As for the Pimp being the Oracle of truth well that's just so funny, The Boy Genius Breaks far more exclusives and has a far better reputation than Pimp man ever will. His bans and reputation proceed him only the minority(SE Faithful) hang on his every word and for good reason to.
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On 2008-06-18 13:58:31, Yakkaimono wrote:
@ Mediar
The successor of the X1 can also use UIQ.
Now that would just be perfect! |
Humble
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I am very new to the mobile scene, I dont want to offend boy genius The review of the X1 by him seems somewhat lackadaisical, I am not sure about his reputation but people do speak high of him, Maybe hes a little camera shy, and tends just to thumb around the device twisting it limp wristed like its unimportant, (hehehe) However Marc hits it on the head of the nail (till theres sparks) and goes into the much details about the minor idiosyncrasies in the device which is very refreshing, but to be honest after seeing boy genius view I had a slight negative view to the X1, but the bengal boy pimped it up so to speak for me, I just hope there isnt the dreaded bluetooth problem which i had in my Touch cruise which i corrected used a hot reflow rework tool on the cpu, its reassuring that Marc says that the sony ericsson bluetooth stack is rugged and more developed than other manufacturers |
WhyBe
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@Dogmann
Once again, you've just restated what I already said about next-gen devices. Thanks 
I not into whose better, BengalBoy or BoyGenius, I don't know. But BengalBoy's review is obviously very thorough..not thrown together. I've gotten more info from BB about X1 than BG. |
WhyBe
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Why does TouchFlo 3D need a button? What does the button do? |
aksd
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TouchFlo is actually not one thing. Its an entire package, one component of HTC's touch flo is included in the X1 and thats the Kinetic Scrolling bit. I think maybe the finger friendly start menu as well as top bar maybe included as well. I doubt the today plugin which many refer to as TOuchFLo 2.0 is part of the package this is highly unlikely as SE have their own today plugin, not 3D and stuff, thats taken care of by the panels. What you achivev using HTC's touch flo you can achieve on the X1 with the panels, and I suppose the Media Player should be superior to HTC's solutions, but I'd still use CorePlayer due to the varied number of codecs is supports. |
WhyBe
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Thanks aksd:
But, is a hardware TouchFlo button necessary (if it really exists on the X1)? |
aksd
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Nope, that might be the X-Panel button, can you link me to any reference to this hardware touchFLo button? If it was posted somewhere it is surely a mistake as no HTC has a touch Flo button either.
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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-19 14:40:10, aksd wrote:
Nope, that might be the X-Panel button, can you link me to any reference to this hardware touchFLo button? If it was posted somewhere it is surely a mistake as no HTC has a touch Flo button either.
It was mentioned in one of the posts in BengalBoy's review. It didn't make sense to me either. I think the button in question is the non-operational screen orientation button. Here's the quote that made me wonder:
Over at esato, a few weeks back, 1 guy claimed that x1 will hav touchflo and the orientation key will become a dedicated key for touchflo. Atleast i didnt believe him as it sounded way too good to be true. But, now u say, there is a possibility of getting touchflo with x1. So, maybe, the orientation key will become a dedicated touchflo key and x1 will have auto orientation. |
rontysee
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@ whybe
Well, i m the one that wrote abt it. A few weeks back, i read abt it on esato itself. I didnt even believe that X1 will come with touchflo but now Bengalboy says there is a good chance of this being true. So, i thought maybe the entire assumption was right. I cant find the post right now to show you. I also know that touchflo doesnt need any dedicated key but you never know whats on the mind of the ppl at SE. They might be developing something on the lines of touchflo and might name it something else. Who cares anyway. I m pretty excited abt what kind of softwares might be getting developed at handango for xperia |
aksd
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That might be an error on his part. From a logical perspective dont you think its absolutel hillarious that a today screen plugin gets activated/deactivated by the touch of a button? What it might mean is that you can enable/disable Kinetic scrolling not the Today plugin. Imagine how much RAM they'd need then. As far as I know the Diamond uses approxiamtely close to 50MB for the UI, SE with their today plugin + 3D animation panel will require a bit more than that imo so say 120MB for both plugins together, the OS will require another 40-50 MB or more in reality as the screen is larger more info to process, that makes it 170MB then yuo have the startup programs another 5-10MB say 180MB that leaves the user with 70MB which is highly unlikely imo and this is calculating on the least possible RAM.
Now also imagine that the conflicts arising between these two interfaces and its toll on the processor, TOuchFLo itself is sometimes laggy imagine touchflo + 3D panels, LOL! You might as well use a 6600 it would end up faster dont you think  .
Now what can be a possibility, is if Manila/TOuchFlo 2.0 is successfully extracted you can disable panels and use TOuchFlo 2.0, this might be a possibility, but it definatley wont be assigned to a hardware button.
HAndango do not develop software they just sell them. @Whybe this is what I mean earlier when I said dont mislead people about app development. What Handango are doing is asking devs to port their apps to the WVGA res of the X1 and to make future apps X1 compatible THAT IS ALL. You're not going to see some break through stuff that will make you in awe of how amazing the X1 is when compared to another WM device OS, they both will be the same, HTC will have its pre installed app and the SE X1 will have a few HTC preinstaled apps + SE's preinstalled media player, today plugin and a few others bits.
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rontysee
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I get it. I just thought that bengalboy's x1 can run panels smoothly even with 128 mb RAM. So, if SE added the extra 128mb, they might be developing something big that requires more RAM than the old proto. And about the orientation key, i assumed that x1 will have auto orientation either via hardware or software and the orientation button will be used for something else. So, i thought that it could be for touchflo but thats a wrong logic on my part. I just hope that SE manages to pull this 1 off as i have a lot of expectations from it. | |
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