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Sony Ericsson XPERIA X1 discussion |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-15 09:08:49, mib1800 wrote:
I think the X1 fate is getting bleaker by the day. Samsung gonna announce the i900 in late June and would be avaialble 2 weeks after announcment.
With the Diamond already shipping and i900 to follow suit soon and Touch Pro not long after that, X1 is now stupidly late.
You guys have no patience 
None of these phones are on the market yet:
i900
Touch Pro
Diamond
for all we know, they all are going to hit the shelves on the same day. The i900 isn't U.S. friendly and neither the Touch Pro nor Diamond has been announced at AT&T yet. Not to start a spec argument again, but the Xperia X1 is still top dog spec-wise (Raphael is right there though  ). I see no legitimate reason to jump the  ship yet.
I just looked at that X1 video in the post above (thanks d-southwest ) and those graphics look amazingly smooth...iPhone smooth. Not the jittery prototype stuff we've been looking at for the last few months. Makes me wonder what else has in store for the X1 since it seems pretty polished right now 
I will believe there are problems when other companies have an equal package available signifigantly earlier than the X1 (not just announced, but, available for purchase).
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aksd
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The Diamond is out, been out for a while, just because it has'nt reached US shores does'nt mean that it has'nt launched yet  .
I think Plemix are stocking them.
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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-16 02:34:51, aksd wrote:
The Diamond is out, been out for a while, just because it has'nt reached US shores does'nt mean that it has'nt launched yet .
I think Plemix are stocking them.
Yes, I was talking only about the U.S. release for all of them. There must be some business reason that the U.S. models are released so much later. My friend, who works for AT&T, says there has been no mention whatsoever of the Touch Pro or the Diamond's release. The Samsung is only single band according to the info. |
iwantfatty
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But wont the Q4 date for the X1 be for europe... sorry if it is mentioned otherwise somewhere |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-16 07:56:30, iwantfatty wrote:
But wont the Q4 date for the X1 be for europe... sorry if it is mentioned otherwise somewhere
@iwantfatty
Well, that's definitely something to consider. But, given that intends for the X1 to gain them some American smartphone marketshare AND it's release date is set for the U.S. Christmas season, I don't see why would wait until AFTER the Christmas season (when everyone is broke and in debt ) to release a high-end smartphone. Especially since most smartphone buyers in the U.S. will want iPhones and Blackberry's for Christmas.
There also was that mid-September release date listed in the Handago memo to developers. Maybe that's the release for the "non-U.S." units? |
norti
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New pictures and preview (coming soon) on the still not retail X1: http://www.boygeniusreport.co[....]y-ericsson-xperia-x1-hands-on/ |
jkthewarrior
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On 2008-06-16 03:15:25, WhyBe wrote:
On 2008-06-16 02:34:51, aksd wrote:
The Diamond is out, been out for a while, just because it has'nt reached US shores does'nt mean that it has'nt launched yet .
I think Plemix are stocking them.
Yes, I was talking only about the U.S. release for all of them. There must be some business reason that the U.S. models are released so much later. My friend, who works for AT&T, says there has been no mention whatsoever of the Touch Pro or the Diamond's release. The Samsung is only single band according to the info.
Its because they make more profit selling to the rest of the world!! |
d-southwest
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There is one thing i dont get!!!!!
What is SE developing now for tha Xperia?
And do you guys think that tha new Nokia E71 could be a compitition for this phone??
And just two things?
I was wondering.....
How is tha (dvd)quality of tha video player ( if you know)?
Do yall think that SE is going to put there own Mediaplayer?
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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-16 20:37:21, d-southwest wrote:
There is one thing i dont get!!!!!
What is SE developing now for tha Xperia?
And do you guys think that tha new Nokia E71 could be a compitition for this phone??
And just two things?
I was wondering.....
How is tha (dvd)quality of tha video player ( if you know)?
Do yall think that SE is going to put there own Mediaplayer?
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Peace
My guess is that is finishing the accompanying software for the X1 (media player, pic browser, radio controller, additional panels, etc.). I certainly don't believe they are taking all of this time to just get the panels working, as some believe. Also is working with developers to have a selection of software available for download, directly to the X1, from Handango InHand. They also have the PlayNow service, which it seems they're making into a big thing for their devices. All in all, is apparently not just going to release a wonderful piece of hardware. They need great software to deliver a great experience (Xperia) for the user. I don't know how ground breaking the included software will be, but it should at least be nice and compliment the X1 well.
They claim DVD quality video playback (and they have the screen to do it ). BengalBoy says the video quality was excellent on his prototype. The American model will have video encoding restrictions though (only QVGA @ 24fps as opposed to VGA @ 30fps).
As far as comparisons go, I think the HTC Touch Pro (Raphael) is directly comparable to the X1. The e71 seems more in line with the Blackberry Bold. |
Dogmann
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@WhyBe
I think you will find near DVD quality is 640x480 VGA so i really don't see how the X1 will offer near DVD quality in 3gp or H.263 sorry but it's not even close to it. Which is why right from the start i questioned the claims of being a Multimedia powerhouse. Now as a Business device it is far better equipped.
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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-16 21:55:25, Dogmann wrote:
@WhyBe
I think you will find near DVD quality is 640x480 VGA so i really don't see how the X1 will offer near DVD quality in 3gp or H.263 sorry but it's not even close to it. Which is why right from the start i questioned the claims of being a Multimedia powerhouse. Now as a Business device it is far better equipped.
@Dogmann
I knew you'd show up sooner or later
DVD quality simply means SD 720x480p resolution. Whether the compression format is mpeg2 (true DVD video) or mpeg4 or whatever is irrelevant. BengalBoy certainly says it's nice on his prototype.
I never read anything about the X1 being a "multimedia powerhouse". What constitues a multimedia powerhouse in your view? |
p85w
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One major flaw, though… Do you really want to know? The keyboard! Listen guys, if you’re going to throw on a QWERTY, at least make sure it’s worth having, ok? Not to say that this keyboardis absolutely terrible, but it’s one of the worst. Think Sony UX computer, for those of you that have one or have used one. The sliding mechanism comes right ontop of the keys, and thus, the keys don’t travel a lot when pressed. They give little to no feedback despite "having a cool triangular design."
This is actually the real first negative thing I have read about the xperia x1. Not good :'-(
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Dogmann
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Hi WhyBe
Well none of our mobile devices do DVD quality it's near DVD quality and really there is no one Multimedia powerhouse although some come close IMO.
The iPhone for watching Films and Video and listening to Music but not for Recording Video. The N95 8GB for recording Video and watching via the TV out although on the devices 2.8" screen it is a little small IMO but is still very good.
The E90 is the best for watching Video on it's 4" 800x352 screen in MP4 H.264 and the quality really is excellent. In fact it's the best i have seen and Video recording is also very good but Music is good but not the best.
The X1 is missing the all important H.264 for watching Video and whilst it may still offer MP4 3gp or H.263 the quality just isn't as good as H.264 I'm afraid not even close. Which is why it will be reasonable at best and not as good as some of the other devices.
I know you firmly believe the X1 is going to be the ultimate device and maybe for you it will be but it definitely won't be for me not even close.
I am far more interested in the BB Bold if i can get over the 2.5" screen or the BB Thunder if i can move back to a Touchscreen. I am also far more interested in seeing what Android delivers on launch again if i can move back to a Touchscreen. As from the Video's i have seen so far it looks very good and fast and fully featured.
Marc
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Dogmann
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Hi all,
Interesting to see what the BGR says about the keyboard as despite not having enough keys IMO i also don't like the spacing. The lack of tactile feedback could be a real pain in use and at the end of the day it doesn't matter how great it looks it how it performs that is going to count. Well hopefully it won't be to long till full production units are released and it hits the market.
Marc
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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-16 23:08:07, p85w wrote:
Think Sony UX computer, for those of you that have one or have used one. The sliding mechanism comes right ontop of the keys, and thus, the keys don’t travel a lot when pressed. They give little to no feedback despite "having a cool triangular design."
How big do you think the X1 is? And, have you actually had one in your hand? |
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