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Nokia N73 vs SE K800i which is better? |
QVGA
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Can you block selected people from calling you from a K800? Its possible in N73 through different applications. Its a simple thing, but damn useful in certain circumstances. | |
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nalbagli
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On 2006-11-06 06:42:38, mib1800 wrote:
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For ME it is better a phone... I had M600 that had much more fetures that my K790 but the wre not useful for me so for MY need K800 is BETTER than N73 |
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Here you go again. I dont think anybody wants to know what YOU like or that you prefer a smaller screen etc. Different people have different needs. To be useful and objective, K800 vs N73 should be based on known facts without bringing in personal preferences. And OVERALL N73 is better than K800 based on the following FACTS:-
- N73 has stereo speakers. K800 dont.
- N73 has much bigger screen (40% bigger in terms of physical area)
- N73 has much better video rec than K800.
- N73 has bigger size and much cheaper memory card support
- N73 has better picture (according to public survey in M-R)
- N73 has better PIMs like unlimited phonebook, calendar and of course the very useful active today screen.
- N73 has independent voice dialing. K800 is still using voice tags.
- N73 has better blog system which automatic log your activities like sms, image/video taking, notes & calendar entries and later allow you to sync to your PC/blog. K800 blog is very rudimentary compared to this.
- N73 has Nokia mobile-search - customised yellow pages capability. K800 dont have this.
- N73 has PTT and EDGE support (K800 dont have this)
- N73 has much better multi-tasking (you can have any apps opened instead being restricted to java in K800)
- N73 has much better document handling capability (office docs, flash and pdf). K800 dont even come close.
- N73 has a much better web-browser
- N73 has better gallery/image viewer (slideshow with music) and album support (instead of folder based)
- N73 has better profile system incl. going to offline/music mode without rebooting.
- N73 has much better theme system - you can change most of the UI unlike K800 which is restricted to certain aspect like wallpaper.
- N73 has unlimited sms storage
- N73 has support for 3rd party Symbian apps
- N73 has better and more games and emulators support
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I think he wants to know what WE think of the phone....because or if not he would see the specs in a moblie phone page but he puts the thread in the forum to know our expierences of the phone |
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On 2006-11-06 09:30:47, Trentors wrote:
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Do you have selective eyesight? We are some in here who try to bring up straight facts about why we prefer the K800. I know some says we don’t need the features and how right they may be (I didn’t play much with the N73’s Symbian after a while) I still think it is not a valid argument. But I have come up with real reasons why I choose the K800 in the end. In case of the selective eyesight doesn’t repeat itself I will write them again.
K800 has a better screen. Smaller: yes. Sharper with higher contrast: yes.
K800 has much better keypad
K800 has better battery life
K800 is MUCH faster. The gallery on the N73 takes 6 seconds to load while on K800 it’s instant!
K800 takes better pictures. Yes if you know nothing about photo quality and thinks that lots of colors equal good quality you will probably prefer N73. You probably also thinks that Pearl Harbor is a good movie and think’s it is sad when Bruce Willis character says goodbye in Armageddon (even though the movie had zero character development) 
K800 has the ability to update is software through USB and given the fact that all phone software is buggy this feature saves me a lot of trouble. The N73 also freezes more than the K800 probably due to a software error but on the K800 I always ran the latest software.
K800 has a Xenon flash. Yes it takes better pictures in the dark. It’s dark a lot of the time.
K800 supports stereo Bluetooth
K800 can be charged through USB
These facts made me choose the K800 in the end. Especially the speed of the phone and the battery which is something you will appreciate on everyday use. And I use my phone every day.
You do mention a lot of stuff which should make the N73 better but some of them does not even match the features is just mentioned.
N73 has stereo speakers. Yes - It has stereo speakers. Yes they work. But who in their right mind uses them? The only ones I know who listen to music on a phone speakers are small kids.
N73 is bigger. Yes. The pixels are larger and the contrast is lower and besides the keypad suffers greatly from this. My eyes work perfectly – I don’t need bigger pixels and side by side the K800 screen looks much better. I don’t use a LCD TV instead of a computer monitor. Sure it is bigger but so are the pixels!
N73 has a bigger size. Yes it is a shame for the N73.
N73 has cheaper memory. Only a small difference so who cares? What sucks on the other hand is that M2 only comes in 1GB.
N73 has better video. Yes it does. I really wish the K800 had better video.
N73 has both Edge and UMTS. Yes and it sucks that K800 does not have both.
N73 has PTT. This is no very popular in Europe and I can’t see the big deal.
N73 has more/better small features due to Symbian. Sure it has. But features like opening Excel, Word etc. on a phone with no touch screen is a sad waste of time. How many people edit Word documents on the N73? I didn’t.
So it is very simple. If you have no need for both Edge and UTMS at the same time and don’t really use Symbian then why on Earth would you choose the N73? It’s slower. Takes unrealistic pictures (if you want to make you pictures artificial you can always do it in post-processing anyway), has worse battery, is larger, has a small annoying keypad and bigger both not as sharp screen with lower contrast. It has no flash and will surely need to be updated at a Nokia authorized dealer (which takes up to 14 days here in DK).
On everyday use it is also very slow compared to the K800.
Trust me. I have had both. When all the glitter of Symbian wears over you will end up using K800!
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funny how the fanboy mib1800 only answered to part of your great and incisive post  for instance, not a single world about how the "powerfull" n73 doesn´t have stereo bluetooth lol
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Yes, no stereo bluetooth is a drawback in the N73. But i guess having that would have furthur pushed its price.
But i saw that bluetooth keyboard for Nokia, and it was really looking nice. |
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Huh Ares, I am surprised to see you conceding some points to Nokia! You say you use the K800i now. How about your P990i? You should know me by now as a symbian fan :D I bet you'll claim the K800i is better then the N95 too ;-) You are really a BIG se fan and stand by 'your company' no matter what ! For this alone I learned to respect you.
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Some people are saying k800 is good because it sells very well. Thats not a necessary conclusion. Usually phones with bigger sales are cheaper phones with strong marketing and design (k800), not necessarily ´better´ phones. Certainly n95 wont sell as much as k800 but im sure it will totally crush k800.
Someone also said that k800´s less advanced functions when compared to n73 or N series is a strategy, they r using worst tech than they could in order to sell more. C´mon, does that make any sense?  doesnt make so many high end phones as nokia simply because it cannot afford it, thats not an advantage, its a drawback. Many users are disappointed with the way has changed, this new line of ´specialized´ phones with downgraded functions may sell more phones because of its marketing (walkman, cybershot) but its the pretty much the same platform with a few upgrades and DOWNGRADES that is selling again and according to predictions will sell it again next year in ´thinner´ versions. ahahahah Im sure if had more money it would be able to produce phones with better techs in every segment because it would invest more in R&D, like nokia. I´m saying this because some people were trying to upgrade k800 by saying how successful and strong is right now. C´mon, lets not start comparing nokia to in terms of success and sales... it would be like comparing sun to microsoft.
Now, back to the topic.
I didnt reject any personal argument of anyone i just said that it would fit better in a different thread because otherwise the discussion would go forever. |
nalbagli
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I think this discussion is going no where...I think that if you like symbian and use its features go for n73 if yo dont ...go for k800 |
HacQ
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one advice peoples...
i dont want to tell you that K800 is not worth its money, its worth if u want to go on SE, if u want to go on better phone by build quality - go on N73, i had K800i for 8 days, i would stay on my K750i, but the main thing, as far we had experienced things with nokia camera's had anyone compared N'Series 2 MBpix cam pics with K750 or any of SE with 2MBpix cam, by my self i would say in some options(probably more then half) Nokia cam pixel is beter quality then SE, but sometimes is not. its realy depends how clear u gonna take a shot
....T610->K700->K750i->K800i->K750i->K750i+K800i(because of price and SIM-FREE)
sometimes bad things could be better than some one can imagine it...Peace!
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sesukaku
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sloopjohnB.. well.. you say.. SE cannot support to make highend phone. I think that is very reasonable. How old is SE? bloody 5 years old!! and as far as i know, back then in 2002, they are not even popular. No one knows SE.. i mean, they do not go for SE. Now, SE already has a brand recognition. Look at what we are doing now.. we are comparing the bloody 5 years old kid with his bloody 100+++ years old the great grandfather nokia. Of course.. Nokia will have more experience and money and so on. But, considering nokia in its first 5 years back then 100 years ago, SE is definitely better (i know it doesnt make any sense to compare it that way, neither the way you compare it now). Btw, even now we already forgot about the 40 years old father samsung and the grandfather motorola. SE is indeed has done a good job.
Well, phones that makes better sales that you are talking about is probably only around 100 dolars cheaper. It is not that significant, yet the difference in sales that they perform is quite significant. Nobody here say that it is a conclusion that K800 is better due to higher sales. Look, if you go to a restaurant, then you see nobody's there on the peak hour, will you go there? only few possibilities: the food is bad, the food is expensive or both. The same thing here as well, if K800 has a good sales, then that its like a popular restaurant that you will even talk about it to your friend and you recommend the restaurant so that your friend will go there--regardless what you say about K800, it definitely appealing to alot of ppl, thus it is highly popular.
Anyway, i want to go back to topic as well.. look, the thread says "which is better, K800 or N73?". So, there is no specifically being mentioned "which is better in terms of specs, K800 or N73 or so". So whats wrong with putting ppl preferences, circumstances and everything else? Isn't it part of the process when they make the phone as well (I mean, i am sure up to some degree the company must think about these aspects when they want to make and sell phones.. Customer is in the end product that they are aiming for, they must know their customer, so all of the little things aspects that i mention to you is indeed very important and that also takes part in making decision which one is better). If you really want to stick to the specs, make a different thread and say this "K800 and N73, which one has a better specs and techs?". Then, everything else must be cut down. If you make such a thread, i will say nothing, coz i that N73 is indeed has a better specs.
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If everyone agrees to make this thread from now on a thread about - hands on experiences, who am i to stand against everybody? I just want to advice whoever created the thread or whoever read it to remember that this is a forum, therefore the outcome of this approch is pretty predictable. |
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Darn, do expect me to do your job (i.e. blowing the trumpet for K800) for you? 
Well, in that case, do you mind if I borrow the typical response that loyal SE fanboy like you love to use i.e. "...not many people know or use stereo bluetooth so this feature is not an advantage..." ? 
Then again I wont. a2dp support and xenon flash are advantages that K800 have over N73
nalbagli
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I think he just want to know which phone is better.
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| I think that if you like symbian and use its features go for n73 if yo dont ...go for k800 |
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Even if you dont use symbian, the out-of-box functionalities of N73 are way ahead of K800. The main reason I can see that you dont want to buy the N73 is that you cannot afford the extra 70euros. Unless of course you are an extremely loyal SE fan (like ares ) who think that sticking the "cybershot" logo on the K800 is the best thing that ever happen to mobile phone.
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Well, nothing wrong with it. But on the other hand, we want to go above this herd instinct and make a better informed choice. hmmm....i remember many SE fans in this forum like to say "...nokia makes crap phone. people buy them because they are mindlessly following everyone else". Such an irony isnt it?
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nalbagli
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@Mib1800
If the author of the thread does not want to know our opinions of the phones why would he post this thread in a USERS FORUM?....for knowing the specs of a phone just go to sony ericsson and nokia webpage.
Could you please tell me the "real benefits" of n73 over k800 if you dont use symbian?
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nalbagli
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| If the author of the thread does not want to know our opinions of the phones why would he post this thread in a USERS FORUM?....for knowing the specs of a phone just go to sony ericsson and nokia webpage.
Could you please tell me the "real benefits" of n73 over k800 if you dont use symbian?
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I think he would be more interested to know which phone is better based on factual feedback (and not personal preferences) from users here. For example, it is more useful to him if someone feedback that "N73 allows you to view office doc on the phone" instead of one that says "N73 office doc capability is not an advantage because I dont use as I always carry my notebook everywhere I go"
I thought I have given you the "real benefits" without using the symbian capability. Just see the 20 or so points in my post on page 14. I have not even start to mention the many userful Symbian add-on which can make your N73 much more useful and versatile. For those of us who are really "using symbian", the capability of K800 is so inadequate.
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SloopJohnB
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well put again mate
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sesukaku
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ah.. everyone is calming down.. i think we started to see a light here. | |
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