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razec
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From: Pearl of the Orient Seas
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On 2008-01-19 11:48:55, Tigershark42 wrote:
I have become somewhat sceptical about the 'xperia' recently, simply because, having seen the ads SE use for the W960i 'I having it all' etc, it occured to me that if this is the way they would market the device, then it may aswell already have been an Xperia model of some form. Clearly this is not appropriate as there is much missing in the W960i (D-pad, HSDPA support, GPS support, a flash player, to name a few). So either SE will continue with this approach and start some sort of Xperia model or series of models, or it is just completely untrue.
I'm not a pessimist but dont expect too much, disappointments are always within SE - just hope dicky prove this wrong 
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ashyk36
Joined: May 02, 2006
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the thing is though i dont think SE are going to use back and 'c' keys anymore so your goin to have to put that straight |
Muhammad-Oli
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From: The NZ of L
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I think the 'C' key will remain. But perhaps not the 'back' key. Although, on UIQ phones, that still remains to be seen, as the last UIQ phone released by SE was the W960i if I am not mistaken, and I believe that still had the 'back' key. But definitely no more 'back' key for new SE 'dumb' phones, unless its a low end still using the old A100 platform.
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Tigershark42
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I think the back key is always useful. However, the C key is 100% pointless. I have a SE K700i, which uses a 5-way joystick, two softkeys a back key and C key. Obviously for touchscreen devices the softkeys aren't needed. But when I use the K700i I have never ever needed the cancel key. Why? Because its effect is to cancel a process, and the back key serves this purpose as well as going back in menu screens. The cancel key is simply not needed for anything (moreso because a softkey (or touchscreen) option would normally appear with 'cancel' on it anyway). I sometimes wonder whether it is simply there for aesthetics/for users who are right handed (as a left handed user I never need to touch this key, nor is it practical to do so).
I hope the P5i will have the following keys:
-On/off -necessary
-Volume up/down
-Next/previous (not only for tracks, but for slideshows and other such functions)
-Play/pause
-D-pad (I am aware that some of the above could be additional functions of the D-pad- good for gaming too)
-Jog- Dial (makes web browsing, going through lists etc much easier- could have a back key nearby to make navigation even faster)
-Stylus (This looks sexy, but also allows handwriting recognition and better use of the touchscreen for users with limited finger dexterity)
-Finger based touch UI- this allows for faster and more elegant menu navigating for most users- also is awesome (adds to the user experience)
-Back key (This may or may not be needed depending on the new touchscreen UI)
-Call/hang up (preferably a single key allowing use of both functions depending on when it is used- before or at the end of a call- these keys allow a phone call while in any menu)
-Bluetooth button and Wifi button- not necessary, could allow faster connection depending on how the UI is structured
-A QWERTY slide out keyboard- This is good for email use, general internet use etc- should include directional keys
-A regular keypad- not necessary, only to be used if the dual slider idea is employed in this handset. I think the QWERTY keyboard and on-screen keys would be great
-A camera key (Takes photos/video- acts as a start/stop key for this, if pressed when not in camera mode the camera shutter should automatically open, if there is one)
Hopefully the use of some keys can be multifunctional to minimize the number of them needed. Some keys could also be on the keyboard (eg bluetooth/wifi keys) so that they are hidden from view when the keyboard is 'closed'. I know, however that the P5i, if all rumours are correct, is to be primarily a touch device, so I imagine any keys would be multifunctional and the number of them would be minimized for this anyway. |
Tigershark42
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Mizzle/PK, its been established that the P5i should be better than the N95 (in terms of specs), but how does it compare to the iphone? Will the interface be ase natural to use and as interactive? Will it be as easy and visually impressive to use? Will the web browser be at least as good as safari on the iphone? These comparisons are more about user experience than specs. |
Mizzle
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@Tigershark
I think I'm the wrong person to ask about this, as I'm not impressed at all by iPhone and its lack of features.
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Tigershark42
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Neither am I, and I hate Apple in general, but I must admit the interface and web browser ARE amazing and in some ways revolutionary. |
iqtidar
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@Mizzle, does the p5i have tv-out? and can UIQ install .sis files? |
CrazyGuns
Joined: Apr 12, 2007
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the only web browsing i've found to be really amazing was on the E61, with its big screen and ease of use. I've tried the p1's browser and it totally blows. Its not very fast or user friendly, just looks stylish thats all.. i hope the new browser is as good as the s60v3 browsers.. |
razec
Joined: Aug 20, 2006
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From: Pearl of the Orient Seas
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On 2008-01-20 07:07:46, CrazyGuns wrote:
the only web browsing i've found to be really amazing was on the E61, with its big screen and ease of use. I've tried the p1's browser and it totally blows. Its not very fast or user friendly, just looks stylish thats all.. i hope the new browser is as good as the s60v3 browsers..
nah, i Strongly disagree! It should be as good as iPhone's browser. the interface and navigation is second to none!
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CrazyGuns
Joined: Apr 12, 2007
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have you used the uiq3 browser? I find it slow and cumbersome. the scrolling around pages requires too much work.. i have used the p990i for a two months and found wifi browsing to be impossible! you have to go through so many menus to just switch on wlan as for my dad's e61, just open the web browser in it and it asks to search for wlan, once found, it connects so easily and we are good to go... the speed is also extremely fast and web pages load up very quickly..
anyway this is getting too off topic, i'm just saying that the new user interface of the p5 should have good web browsing capabilities. I haven't used the apple crap so i cannot comment on that.
But i do hope the new uiq4(?) browser is comparable to or even exceeds the s60v3's browser in terms of functionality and speed. |
NightBlade
Joined: Jul 29, 2007
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From: Nessebar, Bulgaria
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@Tigershark42:
Unlike you, I find the "c" (clear key) very useful and I'd be very displeased if SE removed it from its keypad layout.
I mean, I use it all the time for deleting stuff. And yes, that's its actual puprose - deletion!
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mariozlp
Joined: May 29, 2007
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From: Greece\Athens
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s60v3's browser
i think nokia uses opera mini as default browser which is downloadable for sonyericsson phones |
CrazyGuns
Joined: Apr 12, 2007
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nope that would be for the crappy s40 phones such as 6300.
the s60v3 has got inbuilt WEB application which is so extensive and powerful yet so easy to use. It is similar to browsing on a pc it has a mouse cursor that moves with the navi-keys and its very very fast.
check this out
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e61i-review-142p4.php |
m-one
Joined: Apr 21, 2007
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@iqtidar
Some of the upcoming smartphones this year will have a TV-Out.
The new UIQ4-platform is capable to run even C++ coded applications. 
Don't know if sis-file extensions will be supported. |
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