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Phantasm4489
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Posted: 2010-01-27 21:41
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We are all probably all too aware of SE's (and many other mobile phone manufacturer) poor upgrades in the past and when all said and done you can kinda see their point. They would have to spend alot of money implementing and testing OS upgrades on their older phones way past the time when anyone was interested in buying them anymore because they arent the latest and greatest handset that everyone wants this week.

However we have never been in this situation before where the OS upgrades were provided pretty much for free by a 3rd party and all that is required is maybe some application reprogramming to get timescape/mediascape up and running on the latest OS. In this case i can see (and hope) that SE might start providing better upgrades to their older handsets the way some of the other established android manufacturers have done.

I still think alot of people will see this as Android 2 Phones vs Android 1 Phones though.
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Posted: 2010-01-27 23:27
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Looks good in the video...

Does annoy me that product managers never seem to know the exacts about the devices they are product managers for!?!?!

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Posted: 2010-01-28 01:35
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X10 will be availablein in Taiwan on MARCH
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Posted: 2010-01-28 02:45
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Did the guy in that video say they're aiming to put 8gb of internal storage in this thing??

I'm juuuuust a bit hesitant to believe that's true.....
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Posted: 2010-01-28 03:02
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^That's actually better than including memory card in the package. It gives the user more memory if he oe she wishes to buy memory card. I hope SE do that.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 07:20
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FireFox for Android coming in February

http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]n-February-article-a_9189.html
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Posted: 2010-01-28 08:08
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On 2010-01-28 03:02:45, rss_ndrsn wrote:
^That's actually better than including memory card in the package. It gives the user more memory if he oe she wishes to buy memory card. I hope SE do that.

at least 8gb external memory not internal
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Posted: 2010-01-28 09:02
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On 2010-01-28 07:20:08, chenmartin wrote:
FireFox for Android coming in February

http://www.phonearena.com/htm[....]n-February-article-a_9189.html


I'd wait for Opera Mobile 5 since I hate Firefox.

A few pages ago someone mentioned that X10 will come with MW-600 in the box. Does this mean we'll have radio in X10? Well, it's not build in, but we'll a radio.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 10:42
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On 2010-01-27 23:27:06, Caspa wrote:
Does annoy me that product managers never seem to know the exacts about the devices they are product managers for!?!?!


Me too, but I suppose they have to be very careful what they say because nothing it finalised until the production models begin appearing. So if they say a phone has a certain feature, then it doesn't appear in the production model, then there's..
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Posted: 2010-01-28 10:55
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A few sentences, which you should take a notes from:
As for the other things mentioned. Multi-touch support in the form that most people know it, i.e. pinch-to-zoom etc. Are patented capabilities of Apple/iphone and that is for the most part the reason why every Android OS phone released in the USA doesn't, to this day, support Multi-touch. European releases of these phones do. Also, android 1.6 while certainly, outdated is still he most used release. You have to figure SE's time in developing the UX platform way back before 2.0 or 2.1 were even mentioned in passing. So would you rather release the phone with 1.6 and solid running Timescape/Mediascape etc. or delay the phones launch now that 2.0 SDK became available to migrate everything over and start testing all over again. From a business stand point you would offer the best possible current version and then begin the update to 2.0, 2.1, whatever and offer it down the road. So it's really not a let down. People have to remember the Android OS is still fairly new and there are a number of things that it doesn't support natively. Even in it's current version users only have access to something like 190MB of ram on the phones for running their apps etc. In the Case of the Nexus One, the phone has 512MB total ram. You can use 190MB of that because the OS breaks it up some goes to the subsystem etc. There is still something like 100MB of unused RAM in that phone which is being worked on right now and likely there will be a patch which unleashes the "hidden" ram soon. I do agree that 256MB is pretty disappointing though.


Matthew Linscott, from the SE Developer Community.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 11:37
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those are all very valid points. the only thing where i think multi-touch would be missed is in typing out messages. But, I don't think it's so critical as to make the phone unusable.

It's a shame the RAM isn't bumped up to support future upgrades/tweaks though. Maybe we'll get a surprise come production time

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Posted: 2010-01-28 12:29
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On 2010-01-27 19:14:40, GUCCI.011 wrote:
This thread is going to be VERY interesting once this thing is out. i hope the high hopes people have for it are met,as looking at some threads here at Esato, people are just so sure that this will be "The One".



Ha ha some of the people here believe if produced dog turds, they would be the best phones in the world
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Posted: 2010-01-28 12:39
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Apple does not have a patent for "pinch and zoom". Zune HD, HTC HD2 and webOS uses it. Google has an "intellectual agreement" with apple in which they promise not to use it. Which is strange considering how big google is...
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Posted: 2010-01-28 12:44
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On 2010-01-28 12:29:04, Nitro Fan wrote:

On 2010-01-27 19:14:40, GUCCI.011 wrote:
This thread is going to be VERY interesting once this thing is out. i hope the high hopes people have for it are met,as looking at some threads here at Esato, people are just so sure that this will be "The One".



Ha ha some of the people here believe if produced dog turds, they would be the best phones in the world



i could say the same about the fans of a certain other brand.
In any case, the X10 is FAR from dog turd. You may not like it, but a lot of people do.
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Posted: 2010-01-28 13:45
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Dog turds?!! Wa ha ha ha! Ha ha ha. [GROAN]

@Synn

+1 Well said.
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