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Sony Ericsson 8.1MP C905 Discussion (Shiho) |
KeeF!
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so Hiron, in your honest opinion, should anyone get this phone if they want quality photos that is to be expected from a 8mp phone? | |
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Hiron
Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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I thought I would get it. Good quality for camphone.
Yes I feel a little bit dissappointed about C905, but it's still worth to get... Best offering from SE to date, not to mention other manufacturer...
But, if C905 was a dedicated digital camera, I would not get it... There are many other better digicam at the same price 
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mario2004
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@Hiron In your honest opinion, do you think that the sampled pics we have so far come anywhere near the Innov8's, photoshopped or not? And is the xenon flash at least as good as nokias? I hope is not the same module as in the k850i because then it won't be anywhere near  I am aware the Samsung takes a few seconds longer between shots but look at the quality,not to mention the optical zoom. The problem with the optical zoom in 5mp+ camera is handshaking ! If the lens is not mechanicaly stabilized you'll have to keep your hand 3 square times stiller ! ! ! That's 9x ! not to add any smearing/distortion ! Innov8 takes stunning optically zoomed pics, if the delay timer is used and the cell is not touched at all during shutter release ! I still remember most magazine testers and users do not know that and blame the phone There is no limit to stupidity and this fact seems to make optical zoom in a cell impractical. For video recording is usefull thou because the resolution is much much less, but that is not a issue with SE phones of this days
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Hiron
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From: Denpasar - Bali, Indonesia
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I'm sorry before, but could you give me the link which stated that Innov8 has optical zoom? I thought I miss some important thing... : confused :
About optical zoom in camphone, yes it's quite impractical to implementing it to such a small lens. At least it needs bigger lens or telescopic lens design...
But I'm quite impressed with SO905iCS optical zoom performance... 
About the Xenon Flash performance, you can see page 140 in this thread. Look at the delicious pizza photo...
Judge it by yourself. The question isn't about if it's perform better than Nokia, but more about your own taste. Do you like it or not? Are you satisfied? Everyone has their opinions.
In my opinion, the flash is quite decent, and C905 got bigger Xenon than K850
About the pics photoshopped or not, I dunno... You also can edit EXIF with many program out there, just google it...
But for your information as I said before, the 800x600 sample pics comes from Virgile Fountaine, a professional reviewers from Planete Nokia. He is a credible guy, and have no reason for faking it.
Furthermore, I saw him taking a picture of himself through a mirror, holding silver C905. It proves he using C905, not DSLR, because that picture has the same quality with the other picture from him...
And in my point of view, I thought I don't care if Innov8, Samsung, Nokia or LG beats C905, at least nowadays. That's because there is only a little performance differences.
The more important question for me: are you satisfied with the quality for everyday using? I said yes. And that's more than enough for me. We must still count other factors when selecting a phone: price, style, ergonomics and many more... And C905 suits me...
Dunno about the others, because everyone has it's own opinion. So decide it yourself. Dont let other people persuading you... Just try the dummies in a phone store and decide! The answer is only two: buy or not.
I'm quite satisfied about QVGA rec, knowing that YouTube performs at QVGA (although I still expect more...)
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harry20larry
Joined: Feb 18, 2008
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Hiron, I agree with your opinion totally. The samsung does have optical zoom, but the way most cam phones these days which have optical zoom is by actually bending the lens inside the camera, so no moving parts. As plank has said before, this can create poor images. As long as it records QVGA effectively, every pixel counts, and it is smooth, I will be very happy, although other contender have 4x quality improvements, I would never use any of their results in my photo library, because the quality is not up standard. Another interesting thing about all those who record at QVGA, they all run on symbian, or so I think. I think wifi is useful on a phone, but as I carry my itouch wherever I go, it soughta makes everything redundant, including baby laptops. The image quality looks good, and if all I have to do with them is press the colour boost button in picasa, I will be happy, why, because it took me about 3 minutes on every k850 flash burnt picture to adjust.
Thanks again Hiron |
KeeF!
Joined: May 22, 2008
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Awesome, ill wait anther 1 -3 years to get this phone, unless another awesome phone by S E is release,
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marty mcfly
Joined: May 20, 2007
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On 2008-09-14 08:43:29, harry20larry wrote:
The samsung does have optical zoom,
 It does NOT have optical zoom!!
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QVGA
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Youtube videos are not QVGA res
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razec
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On 2008-09-14 13:45:58, QVGA wrote:
Youtube videos are not QVGA res
as of March 2008 youtube video resolution was upgraded from 320x240 to 480x360. so both you and the one your post is referring to are partially wrong
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C905
Joined: Jul 08, 2007
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On 2008-09-14 07:29:42, mario2004 wrote:
@Hiron In your honest opinion, do you think that the sampled pics we have so far come anywhere near the Innov8's, photoshopped or not? And is the xenon flash at least as good as nokias? I hope is not the same module as in the k850i because then it won't be anywhere near I am aware the Samsung takes a few seconds longer between shots but look at the quality,not to mention the optical zoom. The problem with the optical zoom in 5mp+ camera is handshaking ! If the lens is not mechanicaly stabilized you'll have to keep your hand 3 square times stiller ! ! ! That's 9x ! not to add any smearing/distortion ! Innov8 takes stunning optically zoomed pics, if the delay timer is used and the cell is not touched at all during shutter release ! I still remember most magazine testers and users do not know that and blame the phone There is no limit to stupidity and this fact seems to make optical zoom in a cell impractical. For video recording is usefull thou because the resolution is much much less, but that is not a issue with SE phones of this days
Get your facts straight dude, instead of letting bullshit out. The samsung one doesn't have optical zoom.
The INNOV8 is a nice phone, though I wouldn't buy it......
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marty mcfly
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On 2008-09-14 02:48:53, KeeF! wrote:
so Hiron, in your honest opinion, should anyone get this phone if they want quality photos that is to be expected from a 8mp phone?
When did Hiron become the expert on this phone? He hasn't used it unless I've seriously missed somthing here....
He's just looking at web posted pics like the rest of us!
[ This Message was edited by: marty mcfly on 2008-09-14 19:11 ] |
Hiron
Joined: Aug 16, 2007
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From: Denpasar - Bali, Indonesia
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That's right.. I'm only an ordinary person.. Not an expert. (Psst... I had C905 for one day)
And Mario didn't say that I'm an expert, just asking my personal opinion...
About Mario question, I already suggests to try it yourself.. Before you buy the phone, just judge how it feels like and trust your own feelings. Then decide whether you want to buy it or not... Don't let anyone persuade you...
@razec,
YouTube is upgrading? I just know that we get 480x360 when selecting "watch in high quality." Last day I download some videos via IDM and still get QVGA. I thought it takes time to convert all old videos to higher resolution.
Anyway, Thanks for the information
Hiron
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Arne Anka
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Some more snap shots taken with C905 (just scroll down a bit).
http://www.se-world.info/inde[....]hread&postID=795720#post795720
[ This Message was edited by: Arne Anka on 2008-09-15 02:17 ] |
valgargg
Joined: Feb 28, 2007
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Those pics are unbelievable good... base on what has been posted in this thread already I have a hard time believing some of them are really from the c905?
I plan on getting this phone either way... |
corrupted
Joined: Dec 19, 2007
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@Arne Anka WOW!!!!!!! Thoses are really amazing pictures!!!! I like how thoses look! The best i seen yet esp. from a camera phone. It isn't as pixelly as i expect GoodJob SE!!!!! Now I am getting this phone for sure, i wasn't at first but now i am...Now i'm hoping to see some flash pictures of multiple scenes and if thoses are as good as the K790/K800 and not bad like the K850i then I'm getting this phone for sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@valgargg i exif thoses pictures because i couldn't believe it also. It shows the pictures not even being edit at all it shows the firmware version "R1AA083 prg1205-9079_GENERIC_SI 00.00" on all the pictures expect one which was edited the green car which gived off "
Microsoft Windows Photo Gallery 6.0.6001.18000" but for the "Date digitized" and the "Date Modify" it shows no difference!
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