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WhyBe
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On 2008-06-01 13:32:00, Legen wrote:
there's one thing am not clear about. does the x1 have an accelerometer? not just the rotate-screen thing when the keyboard is slid out(by the way, seems the screen rotate button has been removed in the new pics)
I'm wondering this too. There is info saying yes, and there is info saying no. |
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Humble
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Looks like sony erricson are releasing the U500 platform early 1H 2009
Looks like the X1 is getting superseded very shortly, the specs of the U500 platform seem Majestic,
Open GL E.S 2.0 X1=Open GL ES 1.1
12MP camera, Full encoded decode H264
720p/maybe even 1080p encode decode support, WImax,WIFI etc
3 dedicated ARM11 processors (ARM Mali200) 3D accelerator ultra low power
maybe the Xperia X2 |
aksd
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Humble
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from the horses mouth lol
http://www.ericsson.com/erics[....]eleases/20080206-1188885.shtml
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Osmano
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This is almost 4 months old.......
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Prutta
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My last sentence in parenthesis explains that. I didn't want to make the answer overly complex. You would, however, get a noisier picture. Zooming past the sensor area, the above math would kick in. I think the main point is that optical zooming is superior. The size of the device being a trade-off.
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So true, missed your last sentence, sorry! 
Of course optical zoom is superior, but even if you loose some IQ due to noise (probably only when shooting in low light) the rsolution figures is not even close to be true.
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Mike
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Humble
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Yes this is old news ( 4month ago ) But it coincidentally comes into emergence very soon after the X1 is released, And may be the the Platform adopted for longevity, Obviously depending on Commercial availability which is 2009 1Q, maybe be a while away, But Purchasing a FlagShip model should give you the confidence to own it for 2 years before it is Exceeded by another model, the point is that another Flagship model on the horizon more sooner than we can say %^&^& (sneaky suspicion called me paranoid) but I can just see, the MSM chipset becoming very antiquated in the latter half of 2008, As I mentioned and a few on this forum, HTC are trialing and took shipments of Qualcomms 1GHz snapdragon SDK (what are the blighties up to hmmm) and Perhaps the Collab between S.E. was just a one off, And S.E
are going to adopted its own Telephony/ Multimedia functionalities within its U500 platform,
These are only my opinions and nothing is testimony but Personally i see a trend, it happens in many areas of industry,
The Enthusiastic vigor towards the X1, dwindles somewhat when stark reality of another fone that Tops the Xperia so soon after its release, So Paranoia is a good thing Im just looking around toward the horizon that will protect my admiration for this device, and I see hungry young wolves approaching the old dog has to go |
Dogmann
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Hi all,
This is an Ericsson solution not SE and it says it will be commercially available in the first half of 2009 which doesn't mean Q1 it also doesn't meant we will see devices then either. As it will take quite a few a while for OEM's to implement it and have devices running it.
It is also isn't that different to the performance that is being promised by the Ti OMAP 3's chip solution which will also be available 1H 2009.
But as always the progression continues what ever you buy now or in the next couple of months it will always be superseded a short while later. That's just the way it works there really is no such thing as future proofing for 2 years.
Although since the OMAP 2420 was first used the only addition has been HSDPA till now and until of course the OMAP 3 chip's arrives or their competitors. But one of the best bits of news about these new chips is whilst they will deliver much higher quality solutions they will also be more power efficient. So as always the future looks good as to the devices we can expect to see in 2009 being far better than those in 2008, well at least for those manufactures that use and implement those solutions for us.
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Humble
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Very interesting point Dogmann about the Omap 3 series, and theses are going to be released next year, Unfortunately you are supporting my suspicions that X1 a passing Trend only to be superceeded shortly by theses devices the question how long can I wait, and the WM7 ready,
If we are going to upgrade our software platforms then surely we need a solid hardware platform to build upon, Like i mentioned earlier the MSM chipsets will be oldhat come 2009, the performance difference between MSM against APX, snapdragon u500 omap3 are going to be sad |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-01 20:33:54, Humble wrote:
...And may be the the Platform adopted for longevity, Obviously depending on Commercial availability which is 2009 1Q, maybe be a while away, But Purchasing a FlagShip model should give you the confidence to own it for 2 years before it is Exceeded by another model...
How can anyone enjoy their purchases when they are so occupied with something superior coming out before the better thing has even been released. Seems like it would drive people crazy 
I mean, is this an endless cycle of:
-buy phone
-constantly install firmware and software
-better phone comes out 6 months later
-start all over again
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How much is there to do on a new phone that the old one can't do? (I know, I sound like a grumpy old man  ) |
Humble
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lol exactly Whybe Couldnt put it better myself |
Dogmann
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Hi all,
But that's just how it is and always has been as long as you are caught up in the desire for the latest and greatest and your search for the ultimate convergence device it never ends.
It took me the best part of 20 years to realise there really isn't an ultimate convergence device and to just be happy with what i have. Well at least until things really move up another level and offer a real advantages over my current device.
Which is how i have at last now stopped my desire for my next gadget hit and will just get my free upgrade to sell or use. Well thats the theory, reality is a little more complex.
Marc
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VinnyP!
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I'm wondering this too. There is info saying yes, and there is info saying no.
Until recently I thought all the info was still saying no but the original poster is quite right there does no longer appear to be an orientation button on the latest pictures. |
WhyBe
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On 2008-06-02 01:38:44, VinnyP! wrote:
I'm wondering this too. There is info saying yes, and there is info saying no.
Until recently I thought all the info was still saying no but the original poster is quite right there does no longer appear to be an orientation button on the latest pictures.
Lack of an orientation button could mean:
1) Redundant feature since opening the slide implies landscape mode anyway.
2) An accelerometer was installed to accomodate the lack of button and/or WM7.
3) It always had a motion sensor.
Which to believe??? |
clauf
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I noticed that too. I hope they decided to add the accelerometer. Or do you think they decided to use that "camera technology" which can act as the accelerometer [this is according to pocket-lint] |
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