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fe1ixs
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Posted: 2009-11-17 22:12
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It may be just a matter of understanding how to use your driver properly, thats all.

This is why i asked you how to properly use your driver to take a picture of an example situation, like a waterfall.
you still did not really answer my question on how to achieve both the water "flowing" effect, and the still shot effect with your driver.

is it just a matter of hoping that the camera selects the right shutter speed for the effect i want?
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-17 19:43 ]




Hi VIT. I apologize if I made improper arguments against you. For me, I just missed some important instruction from your earlier post such as force ISO 100. I have made myself clear now how the driver works.
Here is 1 sample low light shot using EMS v 1.0:


I used twilight landscape only. nothing change. The camera has set the absolute correct exposure :
ISO 100, exposure time: 1 sec

I'm now started to think your driver probably the best one out here! Please, do not stop posting. We just sometimes misunderstood about something. Thanks again for your hard work. Great2 job!!

Here is another one (indoor shot) EMS v 1.0

the exposure time on this is 1/8 sec, ISO 100, focus adjustment EV +2.0
[ This Message was edited by: fe1ixs on 2009-11-17 21:45 ]
jake20
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Posted: 2009-11-17 22:33
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@Vit

Does twilight portrait also force ISO 100? and the lowest possible shutter speed?

sometimes I do not want to have to manual focus, and want auto focus on in my low light shot, but I want the same settings as the twilight landscape setting.
is this possible?

thanks
jake20
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Posted: 2009-11-17 22:50
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i just took this shot with DM 3.8

twilight landscape / manual focus (focusing manually in this mode while holding phone in hand is not easy!)

Camera selected ISO 125 with 1 sec exposure time
fe1ixs
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Posted: 2009-11-17 23:38
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On 2009-11-17 22:50:00, jake20 wrote:
i just took this shot with DM 3.8

twilight landscape / manual focus (focusing manually in this mode while holding phone in hand is not easy!)

Camera selected ISO 125 with 1 sec exposure time



@jake20

I believe if you are not taking macro shot, the default focus should be fine without manual focus adjustment (camera set to infinite focus by default). If macro, then you need to adjust the focus.
jake20
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Posted: 2009-11-18 01:10
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@fe1ixs
thanks for that tip.. sometimes its hard to tell for me if the object is in focus or not when the camera is in an awkward position.

I think I am just now starting to learn how to use this camera to achieve the pictures I would like.. thanks to everyone here!

Here is another shot now from DM3.8, twilight landscape mode with manual focus
ISO125 - 1 sec exposure time
Focus on Foreground

Focus on Background


It seems even with the manual shutter speed in DM3.8, it isn't really a manual shutter control. as I increased the shutter speed EV setting in another test shot (not posted here), and it did not bring the exposure time beyond 1 sec.. but it raised the ISO to 200
I wonder if 1s exposure time is the max we can achieve with this camera..
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fe1ixs
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Posted: 2009-11-18 03:16
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On 2009-11-18 01:10:42, jake20 wrote:
It seems even with the manual shutter speed in DM3.8, it isn't really a manual shutter control. as I increased the shutter speed EV setting in another test shot (not posted here), and it did not bring the exposure time beyond 1 sec.. but it raised the ISO to 200
I wonder if 1s exposure time is the max we can achieve with this camera..
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-18 00:34 ]


@Jake20

try to set the ISO to 100 before you adjust the shutter speed. Probably the ISO setting for twilight landscape wasn't force to the lowest (ISO 100) for DM 3.8.

That is why I think EMS (VIT driver) will be easier to handle low light situation. Since EMS force the ISO to 100, it will also force the shutter speed opened as long as possible. In another word, since the camera using the lowest ISO (lowest sensitivity to light), then the camera has to compensate by holding the shutter speed longer so there be enough light to come to camera sensor.

This shot taken with EMS driver ;twilight landscape scene; no other adjustment.
Exposure reading: 1/4 sec , ISO 100


I guess you right. the max exposure time for this camera seems to be 1 sec. I have played with EMS driver in extreme low light, and still can't pass 1 sec.
[ This Message was edited by: fe1ixs on 2009-11-18 02:56 ]
jake20
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Posted: 2009-11-18 04:41
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@fe1ixs
Can you take some shot on all auto mode with EMS driver?
I think DM3.8 and EMS both take comparable low light shots.. but I haven't really seen any shots from EMS driver on all auto settings.

If shots taken on all auto settings are as good as DM3.8 then i think that EMS driver may be the better one.
But I think DM himself has said that he wasn't pleased with the auto mode on that CBE 4.1 driver.

Here is another low light shot with DM3.8
Room was completely dark except for this low light in the pic.

Whichever driver we use, these are pretty darn good low light pictures for a cell phone to take!!
you really cant go wrong with either driver
castleman
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Posted: 2009-11-18 09:44
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Too many pupil but only one teacher.

DM done the best driverˇˇˇ And DM3.5 is the better.

PD: Waiting for the DM 3.8 alpha

Saludos hamijos
toxicneo
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Posted: 2009-11-18 17:54
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Has the DM 3.8 final version released ?
jake20
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Posted: 2009-11-18 17:57
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no, and it may never be released..
jake20
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Posted: 2009-11-18 19:46
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On 2009-11-18 09:44:39, castleman wrote:
Too many pupil but only one teacher.
DM done the best driverˇˇˇ And DM3.5 is the better.
PD: Waiting for the DM 3.8 alpha
Saludos hamijos


DM3.8 alpha/beta is already out.. (all my recent pictures are from this latest DM version)
I think I like DM 3.8 beta driver the best. Colors/saturation very accurate, and auto mode is great.. very little adjustments need to be made (for my tastes anyway)
But Vit's EMS driver is also a great choice. They are so close, its just a matter of personal preference really.

here a few more DM3.8 daylight shots.. 100% AUTO settings




I hope that the MANY pictures I have posted help people to choose which driver is right for them
[ This Message was edited by: jake20 on 2009-11-18 18:49 ]
Cur
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Posted: 2009-11-18 20:19
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VIT,
How do I update my camdriver?
I've downloaded the zip-file, do I copy the files to the phone?
Thanx!!
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Lightspeed_x
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Posted: 2009-11-18 20:53
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@Cur: Welcome to Esato....

Use A2Uploader and copy camdriver0.dat to ifs\\settings\\camera


go here for more instructions:
http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=189630#post2803301
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Posted: 2009-11-18 20:57
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@cur
start here...http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=181678

you'll find the place on file system to put them on this thread somewhere
edwardob
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Posted: 2009-11-18 21:02
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lightspeed beat me to it.....it's a learning curve

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