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aksd
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Posted: 2008-05-31 04:08
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The Whitepaper is where it says QVGA at 24fps in the Video section. Check qctconnect.com for MSM7201 details. Also check http://www.pdadb.net



@drW

Is the X1 supposed to be a high end device or a mid level device? BTW it supports upto 6Mpx not 8, also that has no relation to video recording. Why am I getting worked up? We'll thats because I know what kind of tech cell phone companies have on hand seeing it real time and they're not giving it to use, just rebadging old products(X1/Rapahael a la TyTn II which was launched a year earlier) just new eyecandy and they want people to buy it. You can say that if you dont ike it dont buy it, but if we keep buying dated products technology just wont advance. HTC supposedly was supposed to use the Snapdragon this year, but no they stick to the crappy MSM7200 series chipset.








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WhyBe
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Posted: 2008-05-31 04:58
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@aksd:

What I see in the whitepaper (p. 7) says VGA 30fps record in mpeg4 and h.263. 15fps in h.264

Only the U.S. version is restricted to QVGA 24fps and no h.264

I wonder if this limitation could be overridden through software?

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-05-31 04:03 ]
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Posted: 2008-05-31 05:24
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No it cant , the processors are different. This is due to tbe Broadcomm law suit
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Posted: 2008-05-31 05:27
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On 2008-05-31 04:58:31, WhyBe wrote:
@aksd:

What I see in the whitepaper (p. 7) says VGA 30fps record in mpeg4 and h.263. 15fps in h.264

Only the U.S. version is restricted to QVGA 24fps and no h.264

I wonder if this limitation could be overridden through software?

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-05-31 04:03 ]


I saw the "up to 30fps" in the whitepaper. I hope SE dont pull another K850 on the X1. We know in K850 the "up to 30 fps" in actual fact is most-of-time-is-15fps-but-on-ocassion-it-can-reach-30fps.

On my N82, the video rec framerate is a constant 25-30fps.


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Posted: 2008-05-31 05:35
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@mib1800:

Check Revision 3 pg 7

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Posted: 2008-05-31 22:43
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Some new official pics of the X1 (from SE web page). Thanks to Tigershark42 for bringing this up.
It really looks awesome in this pictures.



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Posted: 2008-05-31 22:48
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It does.
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Posted: 2008-06-01 08:47
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I don't really like the fact that they added the Xperia on top of the Nav Pad... it's just too busy already.

Steel silver looks good, although i would prefer them to have the navigation pad to be silver as well. i like the solid black better though...
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Posted: 2008-06-01 11:01
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it looks bloody good in silver too

It is going to be a though coice though: Black or silver?
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this phone would be perfect, if it only had 5 MP, but anyways.... I'm getting one of these babies
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For me it'll be the black one

@Dr W: 100% agreed
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I wanted the black one from M600i last year, but the shop had t only in white. I think I like it better now than the dark one, so I'll go for the silver X1, it looks more "metal"
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there's one thing am not clear about. does the x1 have an accelerometer? not just the rotate-screen thing when the keyboard is slid out(by the way, seems the screen rotate button has been removed in the new pics)
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On 2008-05-30 11:17:57, WhyBe wrote:
@d-southwest:

With digital zoom, you're not really zooming in, you're just enlarging the recorded pixels. Digital zoom, I think, is more of a software feature. There's no corresponding hardware component that implements it. I could be wrong though.

True zooming is implemented through optical zoom.

For example:
2x optical zoom would yield a resolution of 640x480
2x digital zoom would yield a resolution of 320x240
4x optical zoom would yield a resolution of 640x480
4x digital zoom would yield a resolution of 160x120
8x optical zoom would yield a resolution of 640x480
8x digital zoom would yield a resolution of 80x60

...and so on.

(those resolutions may be different if digital zoom is calculated at the sensor)

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-05-30 10:29 ]


Not true, with no digital zoom you use the whole surface of the sensor, for ex. 5 mpix, wich is resized down to VGA.
But, as long as you donŽt zoom (digitally) past the sensor-area that contains VGA resolution you wont get any lower resolution, pixelwise.

Now, if you take a picture at 5 mpix with the same phone, then youŽll loose resolution when zooming digitally.

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On 2008-06-01 13:35:05, Prutta wrote:

Not true, with no digital zoom you use the whole surface of the sensor, for ex. 5 mpix, wich is resized down to VGA.
But, as long as you donŽt zoom (digitally) past the sensor-area that contains VGA resolution you wont get any lower resolution, pixelwise.

Now, if you take a picture at 5 mpix with the same phone, then youŽll loose resolution when zooming digitally.

Kind regards


My last sentence in parenthesis explains that. I didn't want to make the answer overly complex. You would, however, get a noisier picture. Zooming past the sensor area, the above math would kick in. I think the main point is that optical zooming is superior. The size of the device being a trade-off.

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-06-01 13:01 ]
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