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admad
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http://us.digitalversus.com/d[....]567c2cf71382600ffddf447c48b579
I'm more surprised by HTC 8x superb quality rather than yet again very average performance of 920.
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Bonovox
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Hmmm,being of mixed reviews some saying great camera others not. I imagine it's down to useless reviewers who cannot or do not know how to take good images. The HTC I have seen elsewhere and again they had poor details
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Ravager
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I think the verge got a point in that the 920 has a better camera if you know how to use it, harder to point and shoot...
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Bonovox
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[ This Message was edited by: Bonovox on 2012-11-10 18:19 ] Phone?? What phone?? |
Bonovox
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HTC 8X camera samples
http://www.phonearena.com/rev[....]one-8X-Review_id3168/page/3#1-
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cu015170
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It should be fine for 99% of the user base.. but its nothing special. The real benefit from the OIS system is in video recording, not stills. It has some benefit in stills, but its limited by the small sensor/pixels .. If they combine the system from the 808 with OIS we might have something more concrete. In fact, the PV pro system really needs good video stabilization...
BTW the 808 is the same.. to get the maximum out of it, you need to kind of know what you are doing, which for me personally is the attractive part.. so I wouldn't mind that to be the case with the 920, the only problem is that you really have no settings on the 920, far from what you get on the symbian based device.. so I guess it will more about positioning, lighting, etc.
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Bonovox
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Engadget review
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWhRxgL9HE8
Also written review they said it's a brillaint device all round
http://m.engadget.com/2012/11/02/nokia-lumia-920-review/?icid=eng_latest_art
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Ravager
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It was good to hear that they contacted Nokia about the camera blur, that kind of problems is all about software so they should be able to fix it 
They got the hardware now they need to optimize it too ...
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Guarulhos
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Interesting Comparison Photo Between Nokia Lumia 920 PureView LITE Vs Samsung Galaxy S III !!!
http://www.slashgear.com/noki[....]samsung-galaxy-s-iii-01255193/
P.S: In My Opinion, Unable To Determine Winner... Both Devices Exhibit "Similar Results", What attests What's the Times Affirming Here I Come, In Other Words, 920 PureView Lite Has Identical Performance The Apparatus Xperia T, Optimus G, Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II, Xperia P And IPhone 5 !!!  |
admad
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^up, nice find. Quality on 920 is worse than SGS III, but it's most likely easy to fix with software upgrade. This photo http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-c[....]ds/2012/11/WP_20121101_011.jpg has very good lighting, exposure time is 1/2331, but still the blur is very noticeable. On the other hand SGS III is very sharp. Right now Lumia 920 can match Xperia T in daylight photos, and T is very average 
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false_morel
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On 2012-10-31 18:23:03, cu015170 wrote:
I still don't understand why people expect amazing quality from 1.4-1.1 micron pixels.. they are all pretty much the same, negligible difference here and there. Its just not going to happen. There is only one exception to the rule.. 808.
The 808 will destroy the 920 @ 800 iso.. guaranteed, even without a tripod.
As far as long exposures.. what is the point when your photos will be full of grain and noise ? There are several examples of long exposure shots from the 808 taken by esato users, and.. ya those are proper, and I am sure the 920 will not be able to produce such results.
You're way off from what is really happening!
1. The noise you're seeing from the 920 has nothing to do with long exposures. It's normal ISO noise. For a sensor at that size, it's normal to get such noise levels at ISO 800!!
As to LE noise, it's not an issue at such SS! No one applies LE NR at one second SS! And the Lumia 920 shoots most of the time at faster times than 1 second..
2. Images from a smartphone aren't supposed to end up blown up at 28x36 cm!! These photos end up with their vast majority online such as Facebook and if printed, not at a bigger size than the standard 15x10 or 13x18 at most.
So going into those details and pixel peeping is meaingless for such shooters. Now for enthusiasts that are looking to use their cameraphones for more than just basic point and shoot and just capture those random moments where a standalone camera isn't available, but rather use the cameraphone as a dedicated point and shoot, then we shall compare these phones at these deep details. However, manufacturers need to sell, not simply impress some geeks or few hobbyists! And selling a product to the average user means one needs to address this average users needs and use cases and not make a fully featured fully capable cameraphone who just a few can make a good use of!
For vast majority of smartphone users, when they look at those daylight comparisons of a 808 vs any other modern smartphone, they won't tell the difference. Heck, you may get even some preferring the other phones due to color reproduction.. No one would be looking at detail and noise levels. Coloring, contrast, white balance, and lack of visible blur are the criteria to judge on. As simple as that.
And so for daylight and any acceptably lit scene all of these smartphones will deliver the similar results. Nothing that would be outstanding enough for a consumer to consider picking a smartphone for!
Here comes the 920's magic. For low light, where these smartphones struggle, and deliver unusable dark photos, the 920 rather delivers something useful and unique! All on auto setting as well:
Look at the difference between these two pictures taken with 808 and 920.
No smartphone buyer would take the 808 photo over the 920!
The difference in brightness and scene clarity is significant. And if you go compare this to other smartphones the difference is huge!
Now of course in the future when Nokia mashes the two PureViews together, we'd get a way better result and an ultimate cameraphone. But for now, the 920 delivers what it's supposed to be delivering. |
Bonovox
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Ah,you talk sense  all what you said made sense. It is good at night shots and like the Lumia 800 which had imperfect daylight shots when released,it'll improve with software updates
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Guarulhos
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Shots Taken From 808 PureView PRO Are Much Better And That Even a Blind Man Perceives And Recognizes !!!
As To Itself 920 PureView LITE, It Disappointed Me !
For He Is a Sony Xperia T With 8 Megapixels, Presents The Same Results !
Clear Photos, With Good Sharpness But All This Accompanied By Excessive Noise And Very Low Detail... Especially In Daytime Photos !
For These And Other 808 PureView PRO That Will Continue To Be King Of Cameraphones For Many Years !!!
920 PureView Lite Is Merely An Adjunct In The World Of Image And Video Alongside Xperia T, Optimus G, Galaxy S III, Galaxy Note II, Ativ S, Xperia P, Windows Phone 8X And IPhone 5 !
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Bonovox
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Well,the night shots speak for themselves though. As for daytime shots I am sure with a good dose of sunlight it'll be fine. Like most mobile phone cameras in grey dull weather they produce dull shots. If I were behind the lens of the 920 I would come up with better shots than from what I have so far seen cuz I know get the best out of a camera.
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Guarulhos
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P.S: Cheap Tricks Software Never Overcome The Laws Of Physics !
808 PureView PRO:
* Sensor: Cmos FSI (1/1.2")
* Pixel Size: 38 MP (1.4 Microns) / 8 MP (3.07 Microns) / 5 Megapixels (3.91 Microns) / 3 MP (4.89 Microns)
* Total Pixel Are Used: 7728 x 5368 - 41.4 MP
920 PureView LITE:
* Sensor: Cmos BSI (1/3")
* Pixel Size: 1.4 Microns
* Total Pixel Are Used: 3553 x 2448 - 8.7 MP
So Simple !!! 
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