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Nokia N73 vs SE K800i which is better? |
shyam335
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I would have chosen k800 until i used n73.
but if u ask me now,id pick n73,its a better all rounder and symbian 9 is a hell of a lot better than (i expected and) old messy symbian's. All the good things of both of them are mentioned by people who posted before...I find n73 a lot more functional,one think that annoyed me is the new gallery of n73..
k800 is good in its own respect cheaper (than n73),good cam,nice UI but it lacks the fuctionality...
Thats my opinion.
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mib1800
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K800 has a better screen. Smaller: yes. Sharper with higher contrast: yes. |
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Most would say that N73 contrast/sharpness is good enough for most practical purpose. Then again N73 bigger screen size is a clear advantage over K800.
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| K800 is MUCH faster. The gallery on the N73 takes 6 seconds to load while on K800 it’s instant! |
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Then again N73 is a true multi-tasker. You can open N73 gallery once and leave it in the background. Then it will be instanteneous the next time you open it. But K800 certainly cannot have N73 gallery functionality which is clearcut better than K800. E.g slideshow/thumbnail and album support.
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| K800 takes better pictures. Yes if you know nothing about photo quality and thinks that lots of colors equal good quality you will probably prefer N73. |
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Are you an expert in determining that K800 pictures are better. Have you done a quantitative comparison? I doubt you have. So in effect, it is still your own interpretation. On the other hand I have provided link to public survey done by M-R which outcome said N73 is better.
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| K800 has the ability to update is software through USB |
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You didnt know N73 also have this capability? 
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| You do mention a lot of stuff which should make the N73 better but some of them does not even match the features is just mentioned. |
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Talk about selective eyesight ....hmmmm
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| N73 has stereo speakers. Yes - It has stereo speakers. Yes they work. But who in their right mind uses them? The only ones I know who listen to music on a phone speakers are small kids. |
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hmmm.... let's see. xenon flash is useless because we seldom take photo in total darkness. The LED of N73 is good enough for casual night shots. You see the fallacy in this line of argument.
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| N73 has more/better small features due to Symbian. Sure it has. But features like opening Excel, Word etc. on a phone with no touch screen is a sad waste of time. How many people edit Word documents on the N73? I didn’t. |
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ditto.
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sesukaku
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lol.. mib1800.. you mixed up my opinion with others.. in the first place, i didn't even mention anything about K800's screen is better because it is smaller (not before i type this now--since you mention about it). I even said that i know that you guys prefer bigger screen, then you can see the text better. I do accept the fact that N73 capture better video, didn't i say that clear enough? "we SE fanboys do understand and know the fact that N73 is a better phone, thus we do not say that to win an argument, instead we use all of the other aspects that really determines someone who buy a phone".
I think all of the point that you mention do not really goes to me haha.. miss out man.. read the post carefully. Could you please prove that N73 is more successful than K800? so far as i've seen from many different websites, K800 has been awarded with quite alot of award so far, i heard none from N73. The first that i know was from mobile-review on auguest (right around one moneth after the phone released on the market.. it goes right on the top sales no. 1). I heard none after N73 being on the market after 1 month. (go to mobile-review, find the news urself.. its already long time ago).
It is ashame for N73 to be less successful in sales than K800, because it has better features overall, K800 DO NOT even need those features to make such sales.  .
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QVGA
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K800 is more popular because its cheaper than N73, cant u understand that simple fact? |
sesukaku
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lol.. QVGA, i understand that simple fact, and i am very very very happy to find that K800 is alot cheaper than N73, then it is more affordable for me. I am just trying to explain to mib1800, because he does not want to accept the fact that because of being cheaper, then K800 is more successful in making sales. (btw... not really that cheap.. it is cheap because it is branded by 3, otherwise the price can go up to $1000, im not sure about other places though...). I think, you've said that once and i understand that QVGA, thanks, no need to repeat. |
mib1800
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you mixed up my opinion with others.. in the first place, i didn't even mention anything about K800's screen
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I think all of the point that you mention do not really goes to me haha..
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Haha... Show me where I specifically mentioned you said that? 
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| It is ashame for N73 to be less successful in sales than K800, because it has better features overall, K800 DO NOT even need those features to make such sales. |
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What is success?
By sales? V3 has much less feature than K800 but it sell tonnes more than K800. So? If you look at the Europe sales of previous generation K750/N70 (which should more or less be repeated for K800/N73) you can see sales are not that far behind.
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/16738.php
And Nokia in its previous results release has said that sales of N-series has grown 50% q-o-q. This is a remarkable results given the overall industry phone sales increase was only 15-plus percent q-o-q.
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rockygali
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may i butt in?
can awards be counted in too? |
Trentors
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On 2006-11-06 11:12:20, QVGA wrote:
K800 is more popular because its cheaper than N73, cant u understand that simple fact?
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In Denmark the K800 is not cheaper than N73. Besides with all the money we get from operators the prices are pretty much the same. Though the N73 was cheaper for me.
Still K800 is a greater success in DK.
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sesukaku
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yes of course.. it also shows how good the performance and how users have chosen K800 as their favourite phones. Remember that the title of this thread is "N73 vs Sony Ericsson K800, which is better?", so there is no basic set thing s that we should stick on, like tech. We can include as much factors as we want to be--just make sure that it is not a make up. you are welcome to join this debate.. its really really cool and entertaining |
rockygali
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oh... thats good...
so i guess this one will help:
http://www.mobiletoday.co.uk/products/tracker.asp?i=73&page=
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sesukaku
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"BUT you have to back up your subjectivity with realistic points. It would be ridiculous if you say a Ford is better than Merc because the Ford has a smaller engine (like those who said K800 is better because of its smaller screen ). "
This is the part that i am refering to.. you sound like i have said that "K800 is better because of its smaller screen)".
http://www.mobile-review.com/[....]onth=August&day=11&language=en
This is the news article on K800 one month after its release on the market.
dated 11 august 2006: instant success of K800
You should be reasonable lar.... V3 is already an old mobile phone.. it started shipping like last year, how come you compare that to a phone that just being released this year?
Have you read the article recently, where it mentions about the RAZR being defeated by Sony Ericsson in terms of its popularity?
http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=1223
That is the article few days ago i think...
so..you mention about nokia N series has push nokia sales right? i think that is not quite true.. i heard nokia sells 400000 mobile phone a day in india.. most of them comes from entry level, not N series.
What about cybershot and walkman branding in SE phones? that really really push SE's sales and popularity right?
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Trentors
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#Mib1800
I think the discussing is shaping up now. You present your arguments and I present mine – that is how a discussing should be like. Even though you’re right in that this kind of discussing can’t be settled.
I am sorry about missing the fact that you can update N73 online. You couldn’t when I had the phone.
- Gallery. Sure it can be minimized in the background but it takes up a RAM and applications like gallery you won’t keep in background. I didn’t and my brother (who is a proud owner of N73 don’t) But everything is instant on K800 and that is what I really like. It is fast.
- Well we did take some pictures with a Sony Cybershot DSC-T9, N73 and K800. Of course the phones doesn’t even come close to the real camera but the colors on K800 looked more like the “real” camera. Sure the colors on N73 where more vivid but not true to the motive. Besides some details are lost on N73. It is not clear unless you really compare them though.
- I disagree with the flash. In lowlight conditions (twilight) the K800 took better pictures due to the flash. It is quite funny because Friday evening (it is dark here in the evening) I was hanging with my brother and his N73 and it annoyed him that every picture he took there was a lot of noise because of the low light. I did not have that problem because of my flash. But I agree that my way of arguing where a bit off. Sorry.
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DragonEye
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just a quick correction n73 has update ability.. but no updates... still waiting for an update for mine..
crackle earpice, occacsional freezing, gallery locks up due to memory errors
camera blue haze
these type of early production n series bugs that have been fixed in my old n80 and current e61.. but still nothing for my n73
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mib1800
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sesukaku
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N-series definitely have push sales. Nokia has sold 4million N-series in Q3 which was up 50% from Q2. We do know as a fact, Nokia higher end smartphone sales (incl. n-series) has increased tremendously. Nokia sold 12mil smartphones in Q3 which is something like 18% of all sales. (just compare to SE which sold overall 19mil phones in same period)
Trentors
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| Gallery. Sure it can be minimized in the background but it takes up a RAM and applications like gallery you won’t keep in background. |
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All I am saying is that N73 has the capability to be as fast as K800. On the other hand K800 gallery is deficient compared to N73 and there is no remedy. One example is the album capability. In N73, you can create many albums for different occasions (e.g work, outing, happy hour, weekends, holiday) and taken photos are automatic sorted into album by just setting the active album in camera prog where taken photos are stored. For K800 photos are always stored in single folder. You have to manually the sort photos by time which is a pain.
If come to worse, for N73, even if you can't stand the built-in gallery, you still have the choice to replace it with another by installing a 3rd party program. In fact you can "replace" any built-in functions which you dont like.
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bavlondon2
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Plain and simple there. I didnt expect it to be ahead that much of the n73.
You all havent mentioned the k800s superior ability to play encoded video clips.
K800 can play really high quality mp4 converted clips of up to 335kbs where as these same clips would only play sound on the n73.
One of the main reasons i picked the k800 over the n73 was despite the quicker ability to take pictures it also plays a bigger range of videos.
These mp4 clips can often surpass any smartmovie format the n73 can take.
And I do like watching an episode of smallville ect...on the way to work. LOL |
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Posted: 2006-11-06 10:26
