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aksd
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1. There has been no confirmation from SE, like I mentioned if it were to release in the next 3 months the service center, marketing people etc.. would have had training sessions for the handset which still has'nt begun, therfore my personal opinion is it should release anytime between Oct-Dec  .
2. Of course, one of the selling points of WM is the ability to upgrade platfrom when a new one is out. If you notice the Diamond seems future proof with an accelerometer etc. SE should push to make it future proof especially when its competition is future proof in the form of the Diamond/Raphael/HTC products, although its not really competition as HTC earns for every X1 sold .
3. Here is ahy only 16bpp is supported for WM devices, and it should be similar for WM7 if I am not mistaken, link : http://blogs.msdn.com/windows[....]archive/2005/09/07/462187.aspx
4. Usually the screens wrt hardware are capable of displaying 18bpp, although the software renders in 16bpp only.
5. No idea
6. I suggest you wait it out a bit, where OS power is concerned I think Android is the way to go, very efficent use of hardware, with Quake working at 30fps on an underclocked MSM7200 processor, and the OS supports OpenGL. APX2500 based phones will be awesome but sdaly the first ones based on the APX2500 processor should be out Q3 2009, so that can be your next phone  . Lets see what WM7 has to offer as well, its too early to judge whats going to happen. But by December I know 1 thing for sure, the X1 sure wont be the "monster" it is today 
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Humble
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Thanks aksd for your valuable insight,
Dilemma dilemma, Thanks for explaining about the screen resolution, Is there going to be another version of the apx2500?
I love the 500mW 700mW TDP of the SnapDragon Processor thats is Ground Breaking, thats means it be using a smaller battery (lol) power to weight ratio, can you image your fone with a HDMI port, apparantely qualcomm are saying that they will have full encode and decode 1080p in theses devices,
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imranbashir
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/[....]equpped-willcom-03-smartphone/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vwrpk_FQiQ&feature=related
This post is for WhyBe who kept on saying why hasn’t anyone released anything similar or better than the Xperia X1. Well, this is out in July. And I know the chipset isn’t Qualcomm, but then again it has a built in TV tuner and is out next month!
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aksd
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We are going OT now aren't we
Anyway Qualcomms solutions need to be implemented wholly first dont they (look at the TyTn II fiasco).
I expected Snapdragon out this year, thats what HTC said last year, and the Nvidia processor as well gets my pulse racing
BTW ANy link to the 1080p info? I thought it was 720p? I must have been mistaken though.
@imran
Using the PXA270 processor though
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mib1800
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@aksd
I'd go for the X1 anyday, even if the panels is bloated, I can disable it and I'll have a full 256MB of RAM to play with wheeeeeeeeeee!
Then you lose the touch UI and back to stylus. duh. Come to think of it SE can release the X1 now without the panel software. (...and instead of spending bucketload of money to ready the panel software, maybe SE can spend some lose change to secretly fund WM crackers to ready a cooked ROM with TouchFlo 3D that is compatible with X1).  |
aksd
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@mib
You know that in WM provided software is'nt the end all, we dont have as many restrictions like you Symbian people . If its there, awesome, if its not big deal . ANd Even SE's attempt at finger friendly launcher is pointless since the basic apps still need you to either pull out the stylus or struggle a little with your finger. The hardware is what counts, bottom line and its got 256MB RAM "wheeeeeeeeeeee" all over again .
Funding is not required lol, TouchFlo has already been extracted even before the Diamond is out.
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Humble
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2RbU13tUDk
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WhyBe
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I didn't know they were using DOS smartphones in Japan 
I'd hate to have to climb steps with that brick in my pocket...
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imranbashir
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But you can get it in pink, thats gotta suit you... |
hahaha112
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Then why dosent they put an accelerometer in it and make it future proff like the Diamond.
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imranbashir
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On a more serious note though, I think it runs WM6 the front facia changes similar to the Samsung Soul, so you can have a keypad up front too so you don’t need to slide out the keyboard for one hand operation.
Size wise I think it’s very close to the Xperia X1, a little taller and slightly thicker, but still less so than the TyTn II. Anyway enough said about the phone, just a bit of fun on this miserable day...
And no I’m not buying one!
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changtak
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testing..
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WhyBe
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On 2008-05-27 15:13:08, aksd wrote:
@WhyBe
...And I dont think Dogmann is anti X1, nor am I(I'm actually pro X1, I've recomendded it to a ton of my friends), its just that I like debating when certain un-truths are posted on forums.
You a hater, aksd, no, but Dogmann and mib1800? I'm not so sure
@Dogmann & mib1800, where do you stand?
Handango said WVGA apps(they did not mention any framework), YOU said apps based on a new touch based Xperia interface, you also mentioned that the delay is because of time for developers to develop apps with an "Xperia" feel which you have led the forum to believe, so I dont think its too much to ask for you to back up your statement and lead me to a link that allows a developer(myself) to develop apps with the "Xperia" feel.
You are taking my words literally as a programmer instead of looking at the bigger picture. My statements had nothing to do with coding the UI. I simply meant designing applications that are well thought out and match the premium flavor that Xperia is supposed to have. This was a logical conclusion drawn from the links I provided when I made the statements.
The X1 is going to be a good handset, although not great imo, as a month or two after purchase you're going to see WM7 phones out. Also the Xperia will be a great WM 6.1 phone, one of the best at the time of its release without a doubt but it is not going to have break through software nor is it an iPhone replacement.
What do you guys consider to be a great handset? I mean, how do you slam the X1 (which is clearly the best, as of now) yet have no other standard to hold Xperia up to except some imaginary prototypes or something maybe coming out next year? At first, the Diamond and Raphael were the big hope. The specs were released then the comparisons to X1 have seemed to slow down dramatically. Then imranbashir shows us this 10 kilo aircraft launcher running DOS . I'm just wondering, what standard should someone hold the X1 to?
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mib1800
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On 2008-05-27 17:55:24, aksd wrote:
@mib
You know that in WM provided software is'nt the end all, we dont have as many restrictions like you Symbian people . If its there, awesome, if its not big deal . ANd Even SE's attempt at finger friendly launcher is pointless since the basic apps still need you to either pull out the stylus or struggle a little with your finger. The hardware is what counts, bottom line and its got 256MB RAM "wheeeeeeeeeeee" all over again .
Agree with you here. There are so many shells for WM that it really doesnt matter if SE comes out with a crap panel UI. You can just replace it Hardware wise, some area is still not up to standard.
e.g camera + video recording still cannot match N95/82, no accelerometer and in-built GPS capability is still very sketchy and finally no TV-out.
Funding is not required lol, TouchFlo has already been extracted even before the Diamond is out.
But not for non-standard WVGA screen of X1. So for me, I dont see the attraction of X1 hardware over Diamond. I think the Diamond screen resolution is much better than X1 as you can be sure that you have no problem running 3rd party apps. For X1, you can't be sure you can get a working shell (if you are looking at replacing the panel software). At least for Diamond, you are assured to have some sort of Touch UI which look sleek and working.
I am looking to buy the Diamond to replace my Atom. X1 seems so bulky compared to Diamond.
@WhyBe
Where do I stand? I am looking to buy the HTC Diamond so I am not anti-WM. But I just see no attraction with the X1 (esp compared to Diamond):-
- Diamond is much lighter and smaller size
- No one is really sure how X1 panel suppose to work or what kind of capability it has. TouchFLO 3D is known and it looks very sleek
- X1 has non-standard WVGA resolution so there are a lot of question marks whether existing 3rd party apps (incl. freeware) will work properly.
- Going by SE tradition, X1 price will be sky-high
- Diamond is available about now but X1 release at best is Nov this year.
Hardware-wise, there is nothing to shout about with X1. N95-8G/N82 has much better camera and video recording than X1 plus other stuff like accelerometer and tv-out. Hardware wise X1 is nothing special next to a Diamond or N-series. So I cannot understand why you are so euphoric over the X1.
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WhyBe
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On 2008-05-28 07:11:19, mib1800 wrote:
...So I cannot understand why you are so euphoric over the X1.
Well, you're in this thread on a regular basis mib1800. Certainly you too have an undeniable attraction to X1? | |
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