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xironghostx
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On 2008-01-07 21:23:16, Tigershark42 wrote:
Says who? I personally dont like the call/hang up buttons because SE phones have not had them until recently but still work perfectly well anyway. The D-pad makes sense. I suppose some would see it as an improvement in ergonomics. Nevertheless, I see no reason why they 'must' have either of these features in future models.
Really, atleast my t310 got call and hangup buttons:
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nneo
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i really dont get why would they need to add these call and end buttons i had all of my SE's including W800i and the w850i without them and frankly that is one of the things that keeps me a S.E user (aside from the UI and software)
their just useless but the back button on the other hand is a must !!!!
i dont understand why S.E is backing up from it .
i could probably get used to their new buttons still in my opinion a lot of users are staying with S.E because of the Hardware and input layout either because they got used to it and got comfortable with it and now they can't change their habit of usage or simply they trust S.E's products
ow and a question to whoever knows ...... does the w760i have a back key cause i dont see one (is it hidden or something???)
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Tigershark42
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Thats basically what I meant to say. Functionality is hardly impoved with these keys. IMO all they do is harm the aesthetics of the handset. I agree the back key is one which is used frequently and should not be removed.
Yes, this is still a rumour thread however, seeing as SE are redesigning the Pnext and not even PK entirely knows what it will be like after all changes have been made, we have absolutely no source to go on. Therefore everything we say is pure rumour
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nneo
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@PK
if you had the P5i you must have taken pictures of it
so now that its getting a makeover it wont look like the one you had
bottom line is why wont you show us what you had?
its not going to be released anyway is it? |
drgopoos
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Sealover, this latest one is the best one you have made....
all the previous p series ( except for p1i) looked like this.. |
jmcomms
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The D-Pad and call buttons will aid usage. For example, you make a call and get a text (or email). You now can't end the call until you close the pop-up window! Do you want to exit, just to hang-up? Or do you want the caller staying on the line and hearing everything you said? Just press the red key, job done, and you carry on. It basically makes any UIQ device easier to use for its core function; being a phone.
Now, you're standing on a bus and it's moving about. Trying to use your finger or a stylus is not fun - especially trying to use the phonebook. Again, the D-Pad now comes into its own.
And, pressing the green key at any time should immediately bring up the phone 'app', just as it does on S60.
The fact is, it makes things easier - especially for 'Joe Public'. I was perfectly happy with the SE UI on their ordinary handsets for years, but the new models (K850 and W910) are an improvement in my opinion. And, Vodafone branded handsets have had these extra keys for ages anyway (usually instead of the shortcut/web buttons).
I'm told all the new UIQ devices will now have it as part of a series of improvements to the UI. Perhaps they realised that it's one thing Motorola always got right with its own UIQ devices over the years, right up to the Z8 and Z10.
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Tigershark42
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Hmmn, never thought about that function with the call/hang up buttons. I stand corrected. A D-pad is also better just because you dont need to find java games which are specifically touchscreen interface. A D-Pad gives more of a gaming feel.
Judging by the 3 phones announced at CES 2008 SE is going for its own design innovations. The best thing I've seen from it all as far as mobile phones are concerned is the W760. It incorporates many great entertainment orientated features which could be pointing many SE higher end devices in the right direction. Features such as autorotate, stereo speakers, 3.2Mpx (becoming that much more commonplace in mid-range solutions- implies Cams for higher end handsets should be even better than this), but one thing I noticed was that despite it is a walkman phone, it has bestpic and photofix functions. Similarly the k850 is not a walkman phone yet it has a walkman like media playing interface. I like that SE is taking the best of a particular range and integrating it into other ranges because this could mean that P5i and all future solutions could have these features too. No longer would you NEED to get a cybershot phone for great pics or NEED to get a walkman phone for great music. Furthermore, the W760 is the first SE handset to integrate google maps and wayfinder navigator (GPS) preinstalled on the handset. This is also a great feature and hopefully a glimpse of more to come.
Still, I think its about time SE did more for video capture, editing and playback. Also, it is about time they released 8+Gb versions of the MS Micro to allow for much more fulfilling use of all these improving specs  . But still I am very happy with the direction they seem to be taking as it looks like they are finally beginning to acknowledge what other manufacturers had which they were losing out on. Moreover, they are combining this with their own sets of unique features to make for a much better product. |
PeterKay
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On 2008-01-08 00:13:36, nneo wrote:
@PK
if you had the P5i you must have taken pictures of it
so now that its getting a makeover it wont look like the one you had
bottom line is why wont you show us what you had?
its not going to be released anyway is it?
and i get sacked?
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badassmam
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Instead of the call and end buttons, why not remove them and have some gesture control? I know that Nokia are developing this i.e. to send an incoming call to voicemail, you turn the phone upside down as an example. |
bodeh6
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Z555i/a has Gesture Control. From the PR of the Z555
Just wave the interruptions away
The Z555 incorporates Sony Ericsson’s handy Gesture Control, letting you easily mute the phone or snooze its alarm without having to interrupt what you’re doing. When a call comes in, a simple movement of your hand back and forth over the phone mutes the ringtone. Similarly, sweep your hand over the phone when using it as your alarm clock to put it into ‘snooze’ mode. Works like magic!
I am sure SE will extend this to more phones.
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NightBlade
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On 2008-01-08 14:08:35, bodeh6 wrote:
Z555i/a has Gesture Control. From the PR of the Z555
Just wave the interruptions away
The Z555 incorporates Sony Ericsson’s handy Gesture Control, letting you easily mute the phone or snooze its alarm without having to interrupt what you’re doing. When a call comes in, a simple movement of your hand back and forth over the phone mutes the ringtone. Similarly, sweep your hand over the phone when using it as your alarm clock to put it into ‘snooze’ mode. Works like magic!
We know that. And besides, the W380 has it, too. |
jmcomms
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I like that SE is taking the best of a particular range and integrating it into other ranges
Well, I've been saying this to SE every time I meet them. I've whinged about it in nearly every review and in a large number of the posts I've made here... but I won't pretend that I am the only one! Plenty of people on here have said the same, and other forums.
It stands to reason that all the good features should be spread around, just as SE did at the start. Sure, they can produce a camera branded model or a Walkman branded model, but everything else is just software.
If SE does go back to incorporating decent cameras in Walkmans, and decent features/media players in the Cyber-shot range, this will be a year when they get back on their feet. I'm sure of it!
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G-Izzat
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On 2008-01-08 00:13:36, nneo wrote:
@PK
if you had the P5i you must have taken pictures of it
so now that its getting a makeover it wont look like the one you had
bottom line is why wont you show us what you had?
its not going to be released anyway is it?
If he showed us the prototype, he won't be able to get it back, wouldn't he?
They wouldn't trust him anymore. |
Tigershark42
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I agree with you JM. But I think the features found in the dedicated ranges should be more about fine tuning, because all models should have the best things which make the consumer want to use a particular feature and they should not feel that the capabilites are limited. The quality of the phone specs should be on the whole proportional to the cost of the handset. As it has been so far, a very expensive handset will have the amazing feature x but for some incomprehensible reason will be missing the simple and convenient feature y which all the cheaper handsets possess. This is confusing and offputting. Suppose someone wants a cybershot handset. They still may want a capable and all round good performer of a music player in their handset because such a feature is common place. Then leave it up to the walkman series to have a few extra bits and pieces like the mood function, dedicated music buttons, maybe a different UI, more visualisations, so on. But as you said things like that are just software, so they should be almost the same. Granted it makes sense sometimes a handset has to be specially designed to accomodate certain articles of hardware (eg a camera with optical zoom), so specialised features like that should be reserved for the specific range.
Overall I think the W and k series should have a spectrum of different offerings at different prices. The P series should also have several ongoing models to it at any one time so that there can be a do all solution as well as one with the basic business capabilities required. That said, each series should have a flagship of different branding but each of which contains the absolute best features from the 3 ranges, with minor tweaks depending on the range (such as different UI or missing out on hardly used features). |
Muhammad-Oli
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On 2008-01-08 13:49:39, badassmam wrote:
Instead of the call and end buttons, why not remove them and have some gesture control? I know that Nokia are developing this i.e. to send an incoming call to voicemail, you turn the phone upside down as an example.
You can't have a phone that relies solely on gesture control for call starting and call ending. Gesture control is a bit of a gimmick to get people buying these phones. But it won't always work and not everyone will want this function as they may accidentally dismiss a call, etc. So the phone still needs hardware call start and end keys.
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