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factionone
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Posted: 2004-10-21 01:40
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Hey all,

My apologies if I'm asking totally dumb questions here... I've not had my K700 long, and I've only just signed up here (although I've tried to read some relevant posts).

I recently got a K700i from Orange and like many others, I have one with the R2C Firmware, I've been checking this thread out and I've decided to grab a DSS-20/25 and give the update a go in the hope of getting R2L or similar as a few of the improvements listed are quite attractive to me.

My main question is regarding MP3s as ringtones, at present I can do this, but I noticed that a couple of firmware revisions don't...

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R2V001
- Vodaphone version of R2L (UK)
- MP3s can now be used as ringtones so long as they have digital rights management, e.g. repackaged using Sony Ericsson's DRM Packager Tool.

R2N001
- Vodaphone version of R2L (Netherlands)
- Still unable to use MP3s as ringtones, whether they have DRM or not.
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...Is that lack of MP3 ringtone support limited to Voda-branded handsets only, or others, and in earlier firmwares too? I don't want to lose the MP3 ringtone support.

My other question, is regarding warranty, does anyone know how likely Orange are to mess me about if I have problems with the phone down the line and they notice I upgraded the software somehow? I know that sounds a little paranoid, but I'm asking more out of curiosity - I was perfectly willing to add a good few bugs to a cr***y Moto V600 they somehow managed to give me once just to get SMS Delivery Reports!

Once again, apologies if I'm asking dumb or repeat questions,

Thanks and regards,

Rob.

[ This Message was edited by: factionone on 2004-10-21 00:41 ]
govigov
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Posted: 2004-10-21 02:16
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@fact if you upgrade at am authorised service centre, it will not void your warranty, and is free

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govigov
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Posted: 2004-10-21 03:09
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What is emma2? What is its importance?

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YoMan
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Posted: 2004-10-21 16:14
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Emma2 is the server Sony Ericsson service points uses to download new firmware versions. It is _not_ open to the public. You need username and password as well as a hardware dongle to get access.

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sameermehta_2
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Posted: 2004-10-22 00:18
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@mwarner

hi i have just purchased k700i it came with r2l001 software is it necassary to update it to r2aa003

pls advice
Klorin
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Posted: 2004-10-22 02:18
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U can read whats changed on the first page.. then u can decide if u think its worth it. I fu own a DSS-20 or DSS-25.. why not?
sapporobaby
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Posted: 2004-10-22 02:20
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R2AA003 has been removed from EMMA2 because it was causing some problems.
sameermehta_2
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Posted: 2004-10-22 07:22
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thanks i think its not required then,but my cell got switched of automatically twice......


thanks for the reply
RedDwarf2002
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Posted: 2004-10-23 01:16
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I think I've come across another bug (although not major) with the R2L firmware. For some very odd reason the red LED light which is supposed to start flashing when the battery is almost empty is actually coming on at half-empty battery (and once even on full battery!). This is the second time it's happened to me, and the problem fixes itself if I turn the power off and then on again. Although this is nothing major, I'm just a bit curious how this problem has appeared in the R2L when I never experienced it on the R2A (which I had for 2 months)....hmmm....me thinks SE needs to get their act together...

Just for records, I am almost 100% sure that R2L does not improve the actual battery life over R2A, rather the indicator is more accurate as opposed to draining very slowly once indicator reached halfway. The only improvements will be noticed by people who use Infra-red or Bluetooth and who are too lazy or forgetful to switch off these devices once finished...
factionone
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Posted: 2004-10-23 02:01
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OK, so I bought a DSS-25 which was delivered today... Wasn't expecting it to a bulk-pack version with no drivers/software or information, but it didn't take too long to figure it out and get it up and running.

I used the File Manager to check I had stable connectivity (on my Laptop) after having some headaches earlier on my Desktop...
Finally hit the SE Online Update Service website and got the page in the attached picture! DOH!

It has given me pause for thought though, as I've read some more historic posts about the Firmwares... Could anyone help me out with some queries?...

i) I currently have R2C - I have no major complaints with the phone apart from maybe the lack of call times for the missed calls, and perhaps one or two other smaller things - I've read that R2L Firmware has a few little bugs, would you guys say it is more or less buggy on-the-whole than the R2C release? Has anyone made the hop? If so, are you glad, or would you prefer to go back if you could?

ii) I gather the phone won't lose any of its Orange branding... Has anyone upgraded an Orange UK K700i from R2C to R2L? Are you happy? Is the phone branding different in any way at all?

Thanks and regards

Rob.

what
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Posted: 2004-10-23 18:39
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Bug, R2L

I canīt deacivate SIM lock anymore. i must have it on. And when i read in my instruction book it say you can tur it on or of.

more people with this problem?
scorpio79
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Posted: 2004-10-23 22:46
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Ok.. I have read all the posts in this thread and others related to R2AA.

I had flashed my phone today to R2AA from R2L today morning and it did not take me long to realise that R2AA has some bugs which could be more serious than the previous firmware releases.

1. some mp3 ringtones become protected and cannot be deleted. In addition, the file size becomes 0 kb. 2 of my ringtones were affected like this.

2. In the "More" link where there is an option for turning infrared on for 10 minutes, infrared is on for unlimited duration. Mine went on for more than 30 minutes till i switched IR off.

3. File Manager in Sony Ericsson PC suite is not compatible with Release R2AA. it just refuses to detect the phone. I had to rely on free file managers like fma.

SO stick on to R2L.

I enquired whether i can rollback to the previous firmware version and they have replied in the negative.

Will let u know if anything else comes up. Anyway i am going back tomorrow to SE.. nice ppl at the SE service centre here..

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darrengf
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Posted: 2004-10-24 00:09
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(factionone) Answer to question asked about Mp3 ring tones on orange
Vodafone was the only netowrk to block mp3's playing as a ringtone.

Also your warranty is not void even when you use the upgrade of the internet (SE only). The warranty is only void if you change or modify the software in any way.

Going from R2c to R2l is a big improvement and i would recomend it to any Orange users and to any other K700i users on any network. I have updated quite a few freinds and my self on Orange. The software is very good, not perfect but alot better. Hugh battery and bluetooth improvements

Orang Branding is no different what so ever. You still have the Orange icons and the orange theme and folders

Hope this helps
govigov
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Posted: 2004-10-24 00:17
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@scorpio, welcome here. You cannot roll back to a previous fw. I heard they pulled back r2aa. How did you get it? My service point is still on r2l.

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chinhui
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Posted: 2004-10-24 05:48
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@RedDwarf2002

The battery life does increase if you upgrade from R2A to R2L. The power consumption is lower on R2L because of certain tweaking in the firmware. Backlight behavior being one of them.

As for the flashing LED, mine started flashing when the battery level is low. However, the LED does not seem to stop flashing even after recharging it.
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