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anonymuser
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just to support what P800_Zen_master is saying, P800 owners (including myself) have had to endure plenty of ridicule from those here that have felt the need to upgrade to the P900, and who now assume the P800 to be some kind of absurd antique. In reality, the P800 and P900 are virtually the same device - with a few cosmetic changes only - and it's the P910 which has really, finally, addressed at least some of the real limitations of the original P series hardware design - most notably by adopting PRO support. That alone really makes it a much more powerfull device - especially in combination with the serious improvement in internal memory - and a worthy upgrade to either older phone.
The keyboard - again, another significant upgrade to both the P8 & P9 - is just the icing on the cake.
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BigFeat
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Why doesn't the P910 have some kind of stand? I'm having a difficult time figuring out how one can type. If the unit has to lay flat on it's back it will be dificult to read the screen at certain angles plus the keyboard will also be at a weird angle. How about some kind of plastic stand that is fastened around the side and all one has to do is to retract it at an angle to prop up the phone? Kinda keeping it at the same angle that the phone is in when set on the cradle. I'd love to see how SE intends users to use the keyboard. Certainly looks impossible to type while dangling with no support.
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tommo21
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On 2004-07-17 01:32:47, BigFeat wrote:
Why doesn't the P910 have some kind of stand? I'm having a difficult time figuring out how one can type. |
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Have you seen Eldars video of him typing on the Qwerty-keyboard!(Mobile-Review)
If not, here's the link;
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/image/sonyeric/p910/p910.avi
(It's 7.4MB, so beware if there's any 56k users still out there)
I'm not sure if his sigh at the end of the video is in utter exhaustion of the typing, or it's just him getting up of the chair to stop the camera.
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BigFeat
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Looks like he was wrestling with it  . It kinda seems he was more concentrating on keeping the unit propped in the right position then he was in typing. I tried simulating the typing process on my P900 by tapping my thumbs on the inside of the flip. However, as soon as I was done with a word my fingers naturally lifted off the flip. As soon as I did that the phone would rock backwards and I'd have to quickly place a thumb on the inside of the flip to keep it up. Try simulating the process yourselves. It is awkward as you always have to keep a thumb on the flip at all times in order to prevent the phone from flipping back and off your hands. I figure the weight of the flip isn't going to be much different. Besides the flip does not hold the phone steady at that angle. I can tell in the video that he is using his left index finger and left thumb to keep the unit from slipping off. If I did this for a bit I'm pretty sure I'd be sighing as well.
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tommo21
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He's for sure steading it with his left indexfinger, but he hasn't got any problems in hitting the right keys on the keyboard with his thumbs and he can write quite fast. You can also hear the buttons give good feedback when writing, so I think it's probably gonna go down well with new P9xx users(ME??). Maybe a few old users are gonna find it useful to? |
tom_fun
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im quite happy to wait, very happy with my p900, for me personally 128mb card is plenty & i really like the p900 keypad, the p910 key pad IMO is ugly & i dont like SE's new thing of printing 'quickshare' all over their new phones - why? i would only pay good money for a p910 on an upgrade when my contract is up if it was offered to me at a sensible price, BUT.....if the service centres can upgrade the firmware from p900 > p910 for gratis then i will be at the front of the que!
its understandable that a lot of people will want the p910 even if they have the p900, because it will be better than the p900, thats why the released it because its an improvement, the grass is always greener and that!
p.s that qwerty flip has to be one of the biggest gimicks ever!
given all the methods of writing an email or text on the p900, handwriting, t9, multi-tap, there is something for everyone that keypad just looks daft and in-practical!
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BigFeat
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The qwerty keypad attachment for the T68(i) sold big. I remember when compatibility for the P800 was a big request. So I guess the keypad is a necessity that SE shows that consumers have asked for. I certainly would have used the old keypad if there were drivers designed for the P800/P900.
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alfaromeo777
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Is the connection to pc "serial as USB" like the pX00 or is it really USB? P900 has a very slow transfer rate.... |
tom_fun
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@ bigfeat
no doubt, but why not make the old chatboard compatable or relase a new & improoved chatboard instead of fitting an entire keyboard the size of a postage stamp! |
BigFeat
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The new 'chatboards' in the pipeline were intended to be BT compatible. The old serial chatboard seems to have a very quick response time with my T68i. I can't imagine it was difficult for so to develop drivers for it. However, I think most users were probably satisfied with the touchscreen. I do like the fact that the keyboard is attached because it's one less piece to lose. I have an attachable keyboard for my IPAQ PPC, however, I seldomly use it because I often forget to bring it or carrying it with becomes cumbersome.
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senninha
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i, for one, don't like using handwriting recognition and always end up using the virtual keyboard on my p800 so i welcome the built-in QWERTY keypad. and as bigfeat mentioned, if i had to carry a separate chatboard, 9 times out of 10 i would end up leaving it behind. |
deanb
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The keyboard's there because it makes the device more competitive.
Bear in mind that while people on this board might be enthusiasts, a large % of people who buy Treos & Blackberry's just want them for email.
It's the keyboard that's made the Blackberry sell & in my opinion S-E has done the right thing in getting the P910 out as fast as possible, while keeping most of the underlying HW+SW the same. |
hariznordin
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I agree with you. Qwerty keyboard is important. I had this bad experience when using my friends P900 its so hard to use it
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rasmusflindt
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And yeah I am happy that I waited cause I beleive that a P900 is not a upgrade from a P800 and I saved some money and I can get the P910.
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So you don’t regard the P900 as an upgrade to the P800. Well it isn’t called a P810 is it?!? So apparently the SE engineers think that it is a proper upgrade… But of course you are much cleverer then the designers.
No the P910 replaces the P900 but that doesn’t mean that it is the next phone in the Pxx(x) series. There are too few design/tech changes.
Well the difference from the P800 to the P900
P800: LCD 4096
P900: LCD 65000
P800: Polyphonic Sound 16 voices
P900: Polyphonic Sound 24 voices
P800: no cam button
P900: cam button
P800: 158 g
P900: 150 g
Larger MSD included in the with the P900
T9 typing in the P900
Larger screen in the P900
Newer software in the P900
Large changes in the design
I have never regretet buying the P900 it is a grate phone and after selling phones for a while I wouldn’t change it for any other phone. Not even for the P910 sins it apparently (no true official specs out yet) doesn’t have any important changes that I can use. (I have not yet maxed out my 32mb MSD you can’t tell the difference between a 65k display and a 2xxk display and the cam isn’t good enough yet. And common Wifi?!? In Denmark you have to subscribe to these services in order to use that. So would i pay € 700 or some for the new P910?!? NO never...) |
hariznordin
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P900 is using polyphonic 32 bit
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Posted: 2004-07-17 01:18
