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RacSony
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Posted: 2020-03-07 21:44
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someone from carphone warehouse said UK release is end of april
https://androidnext.info/?p=2693
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Posted: 2020-03-07 22:05
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On DPreview (photography /videography website).

"Samsung announces S20, S20+ and S20 Ultra smartphones offering up to 108 megapixels, 100X zoom and 8K video" : 199 comments ..

" Sony's speedy Xperia 1 Mark II shoots 20 fps with AF/AE technologies borrowed from the a9" : 404 comments

😊😊😊


Sony needs to try deal with media groups to push Pro to be used during Tokyo games (if they happen).
It was capable to handle a NFL game broadcast without issues.
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Miki69
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Posted: 2020-03-08 22:20
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Well, let's see how this translates into sales numbers! Sony has less than 1% of smartphone market share.

Iphone 11 Pro vs Samsung S20 camera

Not sure if S20 sensor is IMX555 or Samsung's equivalent, but I'm far from being astonished. I really hope Sony will do better implementation in Xperia 1 II.

I'll definitely wait with purchase until I see some S20 vs Xperia 1 II shootouts first.


Regards,
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Posted: 2020-03-09 02:42
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Only snapdragon version has imx555.
Exynos s20/20+ uses isocell counterpart.

Let's see if you guys figure this out.
Something weird on promo vid.
Part of real time AF.

Watch it and tell me what's wrong there.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
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Posted: 2020-03-09 04:40
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On 2020-03-09 02:42:17, Hawk12 wrote:
Only snapdragon version has imx555.
Exynos s20/20+ uses isocell counterpart.

Let's see if you guys figure this out.
Something weird on promo vid.
Part of real time AF.

Watch it and tell me what's wrong there.
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅


Hawk12 please elaborate about what you said above. It all sounds very interesting but cryptic. Which promo vid, Samsung s20+ or Sony Xperia1ii?
[ This Message was edited by: roops67 on 2020-03-09 03:56 ]
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Posted: 2020-03-09 11:48
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Something on 1 ii promo vid seems wrong.
The part about real time eye af.
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Posted: 2020-03-09 13:33
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Fastest is Europe (end April)
Followed by Japan (may)
Then Asian countries and America (end may)
China (around after June when they get their 5g up)

And reservation gift might be the Sony WH-1000XM4 noise cancellation headphone! ~ (hope its true )
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Posted: 2020-03-09 13:50
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https://androidnext.info/?p=2721

Bad news. Looks like they decided to adopt heavily overprocessed fake looking photos like Samsung, Apple and Google.
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Posted: 2020-03-09 13:57
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This Saturday, Sony representative in my country (Croatia) told me they expect it in second half of April. It seems that Zackbucks is spot on about EU release date.
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Posted: 2020-03-09 14:06
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Maybe include some profiles in the camera settings: 1. Neutral - 2. Overprocessed DxOmark (default setting to ensure high score).


On 2020-03-09 13:50:21, Hawk12 wrote:
https://androidnext.info/?p=2721

Bad news. Looks like they decided to adopt heavily overprocessed fake looking photos like Samsung, Apple and Google.

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Posted: 2020-03-09 14:23
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On 2020-03-09 13:50:21, Hawk12 wrote:
https://androidnext.info/?p=2721

Bad news. Looks like they decided to adopt heavily overprocessed fake looking photos like Samsung, Apple and Google.



Google translate says that they based the entire article on a youtube comment. Can hardly be considered as reputable source, can it?
Miki69
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Posted: 2020-03-09 14:30
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Historically, Sony was always about real-life representation (as it should be!) without sugar coating things. Sadly, most people prefer vivid/punchy unrealistic colors right out of the box. I guess they decided to joint the pack in order to boost their sales.

I can only hope that "Pro mode" may fix things.
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Posted: 2020-03-09 14:36
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More HDR = more artificial
Impossible to avoid this. Reason photographers prefer to play will exposure during edition than using HDR mode.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Sony[....]medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
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Posted: 2020-03-09 15:51
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On 2020-03-09 13:50:21, Hawk12 wrote:
https://androidnext.info/?p=2721

Bad news. Looks like they decided to adopt heavily overprocessed fake looking photos like Samsung, Apple and Google.



This isn't news. This is just rumor based on a youtube comment.


On 2020-03-09 13:50:21, Hawk12 wrote:
More HDR = more artificial
Impossible to avoid this. Reason photographers prefer to play will exposure during edition than using HDR mode.


what? Who said more HDR is more artificial? HDR creates a more realistic image that more accurately matches what the naked eye can see. Camera sensors are unable to handle different contrasting lights as well as the human eye. So, HDR was created. Having HDR does not make it artificial at all. Professional photographers use HDR all the time and then adjust the exposure values during post processing.

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Posted: 2020-03-09 18:44
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Bright shades ? Navy blue or purple sky? Deep black?

I have PS Express on iPad. (If you dont have, download and play with it)
There is a HDR toggle with different kinds of HDR and level to be applied.
All them changes WB drastically.
Colors are boosted to vivid

Parts get darker than they are (usually sky ), part gets brighter (foreground).
That is why I dont like HDR+/stacking.

The photos of S20Ultra look like that AI image enhancement that came with P20 Pro and Huawei got rid later.
Sky was dark blue, almost as dark as blue of X10 body.

There was an interview ublished last year, I read on eprice taiwan, that people responsible for cam software said they were studying this possibility, because they heard so many people love boosted colours, no matter how fake it was.

If it's true, unless you only shoot raw, your photos may be like social media filter.
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