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AbuBasim
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On 2010-09-30 21:19:17, etaab wrote:
@ AbuBasim - i really do not have anything more to say, im bored of the subject.
No more slagging of other phones while we are not supposed to do the same with your beloved Nokia and Symbian?
Im just looking forward to getting the N8 and nothing you say will ruin it for me.
I used to be a big fan of Nokia but their latest phones have been huge disappointments. (I have two: N900 and E72.) Tons of amazing bugs. I can't imagine how those managed to slip through QA at Nokia unless they rushed the products out to try competing with Android and iOS. I have no hopes that they haven't rushed the N8 as well.
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jake20
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AbuBasim
lets just wait a few more days and see how the N8 performs before killing it.
and as etaab stated this is a Symbian/Satio/N8 discussion thread.. if you are only here to troll and bash Symbian, then just please ignore this thread and spend your time more wisely on something else.
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AbuBasim
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My previous post was the first and last to bash the N8 and Symbian - just to annoy etaab 
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etaab
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@ AbuBasim - well there we go, immaturity being honest. Again i will repeat for you, im not interested anymore. I feel like im in a stupid movie fighting the aptly named Android OS (and its Android army of followers). Its silly, pointless, irrelevant and boring. Im certainly not interested in playing the usual forum game of quote a post, reply to it, quote some more, reply to it etc. Keep it for someone who wants to read it. I know what i know, you think you know what you know.
@ jake20, check out this audio podcast from the bigger geeks than me over at allaboutsymbian, where they mention the strengths of Symbian 3, the future of the OS, the solid business plans made by Nokia and the fractured OS that is Android. I like how they mention how Google is like a dark cloud hanging over manufacturers who buy into Android.
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AbuBasim
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On 2010-09-30 22:31:22, etaab wrote:
Im certainly not interested in playing the usual forum game of quote a post, reply to it, quote some more, reply to it etc. Keep it for someone who wants to read it.
Welcome to Internet forums! When you were answering my posts about multitasking with insults then it was easy to see where this discussion was going. And you're talking about immaturity?
You're complaining about having to defend Nokia and Symbian against Android while at the same time slagging other phones. I've seen your posts in other threads. 'Flawed' is a favorite word of yours, isn't it?
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HxH
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Well, Lil'bit talk about N8 after yesterday was played with it for while
1.Impressive superbly fast focus locked less than my blink and quick capturing shoot less than 2 secs per shot.
2.Anodize aluminum body really good built and light weight actually it was 135 grams but I felt it light than my SATIO that 126 grams and it was real fine when hold it hand.
body was locked up with knot look easily noticeable though isn't deal breaker but doesn't look nice too
3.Camera UI isn' pretty as SATIO but more adjustable features but bit sluggish maybe I need sometime to get used to
Switching between still image and video capture is really fast less than 10 secs prompt to use
4.Multi-Touch in Symbian is available here but damn it isn't really useful much as others model have it
need lot of optimizing I will not give verdict today until final product launch one month at least
5.Impressive running up to 6-8 programs at same time without lagging noticeable Ovi maps included one of that.
But Overall UI is still unattractive to me anyway less change as s60v5 but home screen have up to 5 page with smooth transition
6.Keyboard has newly revamp too didn't have time to try much because lot of people wait after me
If you want monster of camera and good maps navigator (I did not mean Ovi really!) under 450 afaik price-tag goes for it.
p.s. Iphone 4 LED Flash maybe one of powerful LED today almost 2 meters and with close range flash really helpful one
If I did not get 3Gs last year Iphone 4 will today as single unit with powerful-all rounder and flash light as I expected
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AbuBasim
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Today Engadget posted a shootout between the N8 and the iPhone 4 here. Full size crops and video samples also available. Quite interesting actually. Overall I'd say the N8 is better but not with a wide margin. Here is one of the samples:
One more:
[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2010-10-01 09:23 ] |
ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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If you got to that article coments itīs fun to see Nokia fanboys struggling to accept the N8 camera does not trump iPhone4īs after all
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goldenface
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Although I think I prefer the N8 picture above. The iPhone 4 pic of the stone work looks very noisy.
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jake20
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that camera comparison is awful, and to me it almost looks like the reviewer went out of his way to make the N8 pics look worse.
On the N8 shots there is lots of camera shake and blurry pics.
Look at the red macro shot of the number 53.. The N8 pic is clearly not in proper focus, yet the Iphone shot is in focus.
and the videos are so over compressed, they both look like crap. N8 video looks miles better than this.
this is a bogus camera comparison to me
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HxH
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In color comparison N8 won hand down, Iphone 4 over-contrast and look warm pics which not likely Britain weather...wait for etaab answer this!
In detail, I thought it can't compare because N8 should have better focus, it seem tester didn't get used to enough
N8 was shot at 9Mpx for 16:9 while Iphone 4 was 5Mpx and 4:3 then picture did not swap
though Iphone 4 tester had more time to played with unlike N8
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Vit
Joined: Nov 13, 2007
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On 2010-10-01 15:46:09, HxH wrote:
In color comparison N8 won hand down, Iphone 4 over-contrast and look warm pics which not likely Britain weather...wait for etaab answer this!
In detail, I thought it can't compare because N8 should have better focus, it seem tester didn't get used to enough
N8 was shot at 9Mpx for 16:9 while Iphone 4 was 5Mpx and 4:3 then picture did not swap
though Iphone 4 tester had more time to played with unlike N8
These sitesī purposes are only to be the first ones to review the phone. They seem not to be keen on having it complete and extensively reviewed, though.
Take this review, for instance:http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/nokia-n8-692448/review?artc_pg=6
This is completely pointless. This person barely knows what EV means. He (or she) even feels good at having lots of highlight clipping in his (or hers) shots, and only relies on Camera Programs to take them.
These reviews doesnīt have nothing of 'scientifical'. A complete review needs to have a complete test of resolved resolution over all the ISO range, as well as a colour chart test. That would precisely indicate the loss of both Colour Saturation and Dynamic Range as the ISO is increased, as well as colour accuracy.
Despite this I cannot help feeling underwhelmed by these N8 shots. They remind me the pictures from k800, k850 and the like... They seem rather pale. That is an indicator of poor Dynamic Range, and thatīs quite odd. From what Iīve seen before, I thought it would be quite the opposite. I guess Iīll have to wait a few more reviews of it before giving my final judgment.
Considering that the N8 doesnīt have a cover to protect the lenses, and considering the reputation of these sites when it comes to photography, dirty lenses would hardly be a surprise.
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-10-01 16:12 ] Every Picture Tells a Story |
jake20
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look at these 2 N8 videos, and compare to the crap that Engadget is putting out for N8.
just amazing quality.. Engadget is a joke.. they are amateurs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjIOj19XSOQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-v7B74NwUw
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Vit
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Itīs worse than that. Engadget (and Gizmodo as well) seems to be paid by Apple. They are strongly biased.
Here weīve got a better look of this situation:
http://mynokiablog.com/2010/1[....]ity-colours-and-higher-detail/
Still needs a lot more samples to see things in a broader perspective, though.
Some more samples:
http://www.allaboutsymbian.co[....]a_N8_part_1_hardware_and_m.php
Just an appetizer (howīs that for detail?)
And this? Almost no colour fringing:
[ This Message was edited by: Vit on 2010-10-01 16:57 ] Every Picture Tells a Story |
ares
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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I also can present you BETTER iphone 4 photos than Engadget did...hereīs a more educated opinion about the iphone 4 camera
http://forums.dpreview.com/fo[....]sp?forum=1017&message=35873345
No one is saying the iphone 4, not being a dedicated cameraphone like the n8, produces better photos than the n8...itīs just that the difference isnīt huge like Nokia and itīs folowers wanted us to believe...add a crap OS over that and the n8 looks less attractive
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