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ares
Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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I say it again...you must be a crap photogapher or blind to say p990 camera is bad
Some examples, with first firmware
http://www.pbase.com/ares/se_p990i
I repeat, p990 camera is crap on you hands or you fantasy world...but i will give you some lessons if you want
Saying it is like a crap vga camera is simply RETARDED and show how seriously we can take your coments
And one more thing...p990 macro mode is actually more powerfull than k750 macro mode, because it can focus closer
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Ibinco
Joined: Jan 22, 2004
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From: Holland
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@ ares.. how much did you photochop @ those pics? Its a matter of opinion and user expirience... yours and mine obviously differ.Leave it @ that.
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ares
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From: Coimbra, Portugal
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You seem to mistake photography skill with photoshop ability...sad...please do see all my gallerys to check my "photoshop"
http://pbase.com/ares
Like i said, i´m open to give you some lessons 
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msmmsm
Joined: Sep 03, 2003
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From: Edinburgh
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As far as the Ipohne not having 3G, I am hoping that in approx 1 years time, instead of 3G/4G becoming more widespread, that WIFI/ will take over, the technology is tried and tested and is already integrated into most areas, fingers crossed the network operators will somehow nationalise WIFI, not just in city centres(which was rumoured to be tested in some city's foc) but eventually everywhere you get a signal. How much you pay for WIFI access would be another matter.
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goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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From: Liverpool City Centre
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P990 cam crap? VGA like? 
Operators are already investing in 3.5g and 4g so I don't think it will be going away in a hurry anytime soon.
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dancingfate
Joined: Sep 25, 2004
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From: Jakarta, Indonesia
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On 2007-01-10 12:28:52, Ibinco wrote:
2. You gotta be on some kind of hallucinating substance to even compare the k750i camera to the one the p990i. The p990i pics were/are horrible and look like they are taken with a cheap VGA cam. Tell you what start a thread and ask p990i users to post their pics alongside k750i users, that how convinced i am.
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P990i camera looks like the cheap VGA cam? God... where have you been and what's wrong with your hand anyway?
Even Nokia's 2MP with Carl Zeiss can't beat P990's.
Im not an expert in photography but I can make some good photos by my P990.
Look at the photo thread of P990, thera are a lot of great photos there.
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grizlore
Joined: Dec 07, 2006
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From: Roses of the Shires [UK]
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On 2007-01-10 02:05:05, djsaad1 wrote:
The only problem i see is that everyone is going to have this phone sooner or later (see ipod). It would be nice if apple will start selling their software to other phone makers so we can have unique phones too.
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Like that's every gonna happen
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apolloa
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From: Dorset, UK
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On 2007-01-10 11:10:13, goldenface wrote:
Handsets in the UK are heavily subsidised and one of the reasons for this is operators DO offer their own content - Orange Music Store etc.
If the iPhone won't allow users to purchase Operators own content, or makes it easier to get it elsewhere, then it simply won't be picked up by the operators.
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Exactly, here in the UK it's up to the Mobile Phone manufactureres to SELL their products to the network operators, they won't sell it just cause it's an Apple. Are you guy's not listening either?? To use the Visual Voice Mail it needs special support from the network carrier... are all 4 major UK operators going to invest money in changing their voice mail systems for one phone just like Cingular? No.
It will only be available on one UK network provider I think, or in the UK we won't get the Visual Voice Mail feature. And the fact it will never run TomTom has already put me right off it, what are Apple thinking if they won't allow non Apple software on it.
SE are rumoured to be launching a PSP phone which means multimedia device. The game has only just bugun.....
And as to the WiFi dream, I'm afraid under the current UK government in the UK it is still just that.. a dream and will be for some time yet so you wanna use you IPhone you better get the cheque book out for those fees. |
goldenface
Joined: Dec 17, 2003
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Exactly!
I would imagine one operator taking this phone on and unless Apple allows this phone to be customisable for the operators then I can only forsee this costing £180 or so on an 18 month contract + a £20 - £30 monthly charge.
Its not gonna be cheap. Plus operators do make money from their own content, people buy games and people purchase content from the Sony Ericsson site.
How are the operators gonna make money on this phone with no 3G to download themes and full music tracks? No use for data packages either - another money spinner.
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DeLa
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Strong points other than those already mentioned seem the integration in iTunes, also for syncronising contacts and other phone-data. And probably the connection to pc will be as easy and stable as with the iPod, which unfortunately can not be said of SE's software...
Also the idea behind the UI seems very interesting. Now SE is not alone no more in their superioirity.
I wonder what phone models will feel the competition of the iPhone. |
slattery69
Joined: Jan 03, 2003
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From: north east england
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a point people seem to be forgetting is the mobile companies ie orange are consumer driven. if they believe this phone will win them new customers and retain exisiting then there going to want it on there network.
there are many ways they make money one of them is downloads but line rental etc are also income stream
dont forget the networks in the uk have had the infrustructre in place for a while. so line rental is just an income stream |
Jools
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People, stop commenting on it having no 3G.
Steve Jobs said during the iPhone Announcement that:
3G support is coming
I see this as meaning that by the proposed late 2007 European launch, 3G support will be there. It'd be quite silly to launch without. Anyway, we'll see...
Also, have you noticed that Steve Jobs and the iPhone web-site says the phone runs OS X - it doesn't say it runs Mac OS X.
I think this means that you won't be able to run standard Mac apps on the phone (or even ones optimised for the screen). Presumably the iPhone does not run on the same Intel or PowerPC chips as Macs, so any apps would have to be re-compiled at least.
I think "OS X" is a completely new operating system, just for mobile devices, but heavily based on, and with lots of technologies borrowed, from the real desktop "Mac OS X".
It's too much to say the phone runs Mac OS X - I don't believe it does.
Also, they've made the SMS app look like iChat (with coloured speech bubbles), but there doesn't appear to be a proper iChat client to connect to the AOL AIM network via Wi-Fi, like on a desktop Mac. |
mustafabay
Joined: Sep 27, 2004
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My only gripe with any Apple product is the hype. I don't think Apple has ever made anything revolutionary in the hrdware arena. Apple's strength is in its software design and the iPhone is no exception. To make things worse the hardware is quite behind the curve. The fact that it'll be released in the US first should mean something, the iPhone is targeted at Apple fanboys. And this is probably for people to replace their nanos or something.
Just because Apple says old ways are boring doesn't mean they are 100% right. Now how sensitive is the screen going to be? A regular keypad still has it's uses and probably around for a long time. I mean sure simple is good but it only really shines on something like an iPod. People don't spend tonnes of time on their iPod, you create a playlist and you listen. The iPhone might be a hit in the US but then they also have Blackberrys, and the fact that they are nicknamed crackberrys should tell something, people are addicted to them, and I very much doubt the iPhone will take any customers from that group.
I think the iPhone won't really be a smartphone, no matter what OS is under the hood, this is a phone that will go head on against music phones and multimedia phones from other companies, and with these specs I can't see Apple winning. But they'll probably make an impact. But 1% of the market in 12 months seems a little too optimistic.
We shouldn't forget that by the time the iPhone reaches us, that's EU and asia, we'll probably have several phones along the same lines, LG already has on to be announced and Samsung probably could have one tomorrow if you asked nicely.
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s40convert
Joined: Jun 18, 2003
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From: Germany
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I loved the phone the first minute I've seen it... But as many people said here before... It's missing lots of stuff! No word about when 3G will be available... And how about BlackBerry integration? Or VoIP? In terms of hardware, my current E61 is far better...
One big thing I've noticed: If this is using only the core of OS X, none of the apps we have on our Macs is going to work. OK, OK, might be easy for software manufacturers to port their apps, but Apple is not seeding any APIs and SDKs to developers!!!
I'm a die hard Apple fan, and I'm going to get one for sure. But the best thing about the iPhone is the fact that Nokia and SE see what's possible, how a GUI could look like and a touch screen can be used. And we, the consumers, will get even better phones in the future! |
Jools
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I don't think Apple has ever made anything revolutionary in the hrdware arena.
So, name another product with a MultiTouch screen (patented by Apple) used in the iPhone.
There's over 200 Apple patented technologies in the iPhone.
Name another product with a Scroll Wheel (patented by Apple and never bettered by anyone else).
Apple invented Firewire - the connection used by virtually every digital camcorder out there.
They may not invent everything they use in their products. But they improve them and refine them until they're perfected, and pioneer the use of these technologies.
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