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masseur
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yes they are all the same phone and for updates you will have to go to the specific models company web site, i.e. vodafone for vodafnoe, orange for orange, htc for htc etc
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PTM
Joined: Nov 20, 2003
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Thank you for clearing that up.
As I have never seen anything on the Vodafone website about upgrading software for a phone, is it safe to assume that if I buy a v1605 I will be waiting forever for an upgrade?
Is it not possible to remove the Vodafone branding and make a regular TyTN and update it via their website?
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Mr[NiK]
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still eagerly awaiting the TyTN vs P990i Shoot Out !!
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SL33PYH34D
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I have posted a couple of P990i / TyTN pictures in the main P990i thread for those interested.
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below24
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Oh i love voda again, i got a free exchange for my V3x to the TyTn! horray for me! Geting it tomorow!
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Jah
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Typical the TyTN arrived as I was to go to the swimming pool with daughter so will have to wait a few hours before i can check it out  But on the other hand my daughter is happy  |
SL33PYH34D
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@Jah - I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on the TyTN. I have pretty much made up my mind that the P990i is the keeper.
Nothing specifically wrong with the TyTN - its great all round, its just that I have come to the conclusion that I need phone functionality first and PDA second, so in this respect the P990i is ideal. |
sunnychad
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For those of you who HAVE both the TyTn and P990i please could you give us a run down on what you have found to be Pro's and Con's. Speed of operating is very important to me, but so are phone functions such as reception and call quality. If there is anyway of doing a benchmark comparison, please advise.
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SL33PYH34D
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On 2006-08-15 17:10:51, sunnychad wrote:
For those of you who HAVE both the TyTn and P990i please could you give us a run down on what you have found to be Pro's and Con's. Speed of operating is very important to me, but so are phone functions such as reception and call quality. If there is anyway of doing a benchmark comparison, please advise.
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I don't think there is any subjective means of benchmarking both devices with meaningful results, although I think both devices are adequate speed wise.
To be honest, they are very similar devices, there are obvious areas where each comes into its own, but on the whole it really does come down to whether you need a PDA or phone first and foremost.
For the P990i:
Great build quality & looks
Uses MS Pro Duo (I already have an investment in this as a memory format)
Fantastic camera
Ease of setup and use
WiFI and 3G/GPRS can be used together (on the TyTN as soon as Wifi is connected you then are unable to use 3G/GPRS and the whole WM5 connections setup is a minefield)
266k colour screen
Foremost a phone with the flip closed
150g in weight
Comes with sync/charge cradle
For the TyTN:
Great pull out keybord
WM5 has a greater depth of high quality software
Slingbox Mobile available for WM5 (only relevant if you have one of course)
Better integration with corporate networks & exchange
Powerful PIM functionality
OS more customisable and flexible
I could go on, but those are just a few points off the top of my head. In the main P990i thread I posted a few comparison photos between the devices. |
efjay
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On 2006-08-15 16:57:43, SL33PYH34D wrote:
Nothing specifically wrong with the TyTN - its great all round, its just that I have come to the conclusion that I need phone functionality first and PDA second, so in this respect the P990i is ideal.
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Hi, could you expand on that please? It is often stated that one class of device is more PDA than phone and vice versa but not really backed up with practical examples. As you have both maybe you can give more insight on this. I feel at this stage of their development that both devices have pretty much both roles covered adequately. Is there any particular area that highlights their respective alleged deficiencies? I find it hard to believe that the P990i doesnt pack all necessary PIM functions; and that the TyTN with WM5 does not provide comparable phone features.
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masseur
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I have to say that this phone/pda or pda/phone thing has me a little confused too
alot of people say that WM5 is just phone functionality bolted onto pocketpc but in fact with WM2003SE, microsoft completely rewrote the operating system with phones and data communication in mind and so it is totally integrated into the operating system.
I suppose in some ways you could say that the P series is a phone with a PIM bolted on but I think its come further than that too.
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Jah
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Okay will share a complete set of thoughts later but here are some general points:
- P990. With flip closed it works just a dumb phone, select some button to make a call, press a few soft menu options to access functions etc, open the flip and you have access to small PDA
- the TyTN is a touch screen based device primarily. The buttons and menus are are well placed and can be used for single handed operation. Its not really a PDA in my view as the screen resolution is low and the screen quality is not wonderful. The screen of my 2 year old Clie TH55 is better and the resolution of 480x320 is more suited to PDA functions. Apps start very quickly and the buttons all feel good. Much better quality device than the HTC Universal
So kind of agree with Masseur on this one. The TyTN is atouch screen Smartphone and there is no SE phone like it. The Nokia 7710 is the nearest Symbian device but that is not 3G and has a much higher res screen. Finally initial impression similar to Sleepyhead, that is, the TyTN lack the 'wow' factor but I suspect after a few days use I will conclude its more 'complete' in the sense that the s/w just does 'what it says in the tin'. However, really don't like the design (visual) of the WM5 PIM apps - you really need to buy some 3rd party apps.
EDIT: after the TyTN goes to 'sleep' you can't wake it simply by pressing any of the buttons on the front - have I missed something, I think PowerSave does this.
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SL33PYH34D
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On 2006-08-15 18:49:30, Jah wrote:
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EDIT: after the TyTN goes to 'sleep' you can't wake it simply by pressing any of the buttons on the front - have I missed something, I think PowerSave does this.
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A brief press of the power button is required to bring it back to life.
Also, to completely switch it off you need to press and hold the power button for around five seconds.
I kind of agree with both points of view over the whole PDA vs phone argument.
I don't have any issue with the phone apps on the TyTN - or the OS integration with IMO seems very good. Its just that on occasion when you need to make that "quick call" a device like the P990i in flip closed mode is IMO better suited. For example to redial the last number it is only two presses of the same button on the P990i in flip closed mode, but on the TyTN it is more three/four.
The TyTN as a device works more like the M600i or the P990i in flip open mode, and its the flip closed mode of the P990i that really seals the deal for me - as much as I need and want all the PDA functionality, I also need my device to be "just a phone" on ocassion, and here the P990i excels.
I really quite like WM5 phone edition I think it works well, and as an OS is a lot more flexible (especially for hacking around) and has more "grunt" in terms of sheer horsepower. I tend to believe there is an awful lot of FUD spread about Windows Mobile including question marks over stability, but whilst it may not be 100% perfect neither is UIQ3/Symbian 9.1 in its current incarnation, and I'd have to say right now WM5 is leaps and bounds ahead stability wise, but then it is a much more mature OS.
I think overall the decision between the TyTN and P990i comes down to individual preference, so we can talk about pros and cons forever, but you'll never really come to an ultimate conclusion unless you have done what Masseur, Jah and myself have done in trying both devices in order to make a more informed decision.
I suspect with continued use the TyTN would really grow on me - and the potential for using the Slingbox Mobile client over HSDPA is mouth watering, but overall at this moment and for *my* needs the P990i suits me better.
So it is with regret that I shall be bidding the TyTN a fond farewell, and looking to the future with the P990i. |
Jah
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@Sleepyhead, very good summary
just wanted to add one more insightful observation- have you noticed how well the TyTN case fits the P990?
Join the 'dots' and see what happens |
efjay
Joined: Mar 10, 2003
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Thanks for your insight. Im sure you'll enjoy it SL33PYH34D.
But just an FYI to redial on a WM device just press the green button twice. One to open the phone app, two to dial the last dialled number displayed. |
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