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doministry Joined: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: PL PM, WWW
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Hope not like BMW X6,
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kenx3000 Joined: Nov 02, 2004 Posts: 160 PM |
On 2008-01-04 19:04:13, gothic3 wrote:
On 2008-01-03 22:01:55, xironghostx wrote:
On 2008-01-03 21:53:36, gothic3 wrote:
There is no P5i or whatever it is, only W and a K serie will be presented.
Where did you get that info??
I have a friend works for Sony R&D he said " there is no such device like P5i develop looks like a Iphone with samsung buttons"
"Sonyericsson stick with their designs"
he also said, "mebay there is but not at 7 Januarie will presented, i bet on that"
And i believe him...................he also said, "Sure we handle about the PSP phone together with SE and Ericsson come up with theire 4G and a new plaform ( interface) for al SE models" including 8 GIG MSD gate , but you allready know that
he spoke in riddles
Ha ha he's not the only R&D in SE that speaks in riddles. I knew one that also speaks like that LOL I guess it's their nature to speak something like that.
Oh, is it possible to come out with a mid-range P series? I mean P1i will not be knocked down to mid-range even if P5i's specs is real. May be P990i refined with slimmer and new UI? It makes more sense to change the inferface and a new look while just keeping the old hardware stuff. That sounds more like SE to me.
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Bambino Joined: Sep 17, 2005 Posts: > 500 From: Clow Kingdom PM |
That sounds miles flint to me.
Maybe not for dick komiyama
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razec Joined: Aug 20, 2006 Posts: > 500 From: Mars PM |
On 2008-01-05 06:38:00, Bambino wrote:
That sounds miles flint to me.
Maybe not for dick komiyama
I believe Mr komiyama is different from mr Flint. judging from their nationality Flint seemed not following the Japanese trends set by SE in it's early days on 2001 because he's not actually Japanese so he doesn't prefer thick highly featured phones mr Komiyama on the other hand has more Japanese tech mindedness for sure since most Japanese people do prefer tech over looks.
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sranjanm2002 Joined: Jun 15, 2005 Posts: 271 From: Jaipur , Rajasthan , INDIA PM, WWW
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Let's wait for the fabruary when Sony Ericsson might launch P5i and GPS Accessory.
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Sliderse Joined: Sep 10, 2004 Posts: 44 From: Kista, Sweden PM |
On 2008-01-05 09:08:38, sranjanm2002 wrote:
Let's wait for the fabruary when Sony Ericsson might launch P5i and GPS Accessory.
Dont hold your breath, I have been saying since Mid November there is no P5i and I stick to that. Nothing happened in December as 99% of people on here predicted and nothing will happen in Feb.
The only update to the P1i for 2008 wil be software updates. No new fancy phone in the near future. |
Bambino Joined: Sep 17, 2005 Posts: > 500 From: Clow Kingdom PM |
Yeah! Thats typical of SE
Non Mihi, Non Tibi, Sed Nobis. |
OffLineR Joined: Jan 17, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Istanbul, Turkey PM |
@Sliderse
You might be right but P1i already become outdated.
If is not going to publish P5i it should at least publish P3i or something in the middle. And publishing something in the middle is also lame
So should bring P5i out ASAP. If does this after february or much later it will lose alot of customers. There are alot of people out there waiting for to bring something awsome. Disappointing them might force them to buy other brands. (such as HTC, Nokia even Apple)
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Pierke Joined: Oct 31, 2007 Posts: 53 From: Leiden PM |
I've been reading the same story for the last couple of years now: If SE doesn't bla bla, then the customers will bla bla... It just does not work that way! SE will announce an new smartphone whenever they are ready to do so! |
OffLineR Joined: Jan 17, 2003 Posts: > 500 From: Istanbul, Turkey PM |
what is your point Pierke??
Of course would announce when they are ready. Why would they announce before they are. It would be stupid otherwise, wouldn't it??
We are discussing here the specs and the timing. They can always announce earlier a phone with less specs.
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Pierke Joined: Oct 31, 2007 Posts: 53 From: Leiden PM |
My point is: people are talking for years now about SE, about how they need to hurry up or otherwise loose customers, I just don't believe that. Just a small fraction of the customers is loyal to a brand, all the others will switch easily. Therefore, SE might loose some customers if they don't come up with a new smartphone, but other customers will come back for the phones they actually bring out. |
Tigershark42 Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: > 500 PM |
I think it will require a combination of both factors. However, 'when they are ready' is dependent on how they see the P1i in the market. I think its a good but by no means a top of the range solution, it depends what they think of that and if they agree are they willing to work on a much better, new top of the range solution, or just focus on the mid and lower ranges (AGAIN). I hope they go for something new and great for a change. I think a time will come when the same mid range walkman phone with a different look and same specs wont sell anymore. I hope they decide to aim at the upper market before that happens, because many are waiting and hoping for something groundbreaking, and the longer it takes, the more we will expect from them, and if they deliver nothing, sooner or later (this could be long term) the brand will lose its appeal. Theres no point in name and good build quality if specs are a few years outdated. Even their latest offerings are not anything special. The W960i is better than the P1i (in terms of specs and UI) but there is still alot to be desired. The same with the 3 new walkman phones released at the end of 2007. They are mid range solutions with added HSDPA. Thats okay for some, but will not do much to beat the competition because as I said, when the customer sees other brands offering new and interesting features, there wont be anything to keep them with SE. I do not think this year will be like most years. It will be more deicisive as it is the advent of many new revolutions to the industry- mobile TV, great touch interfaces, much better cameras, much better memory, much better gaming (PS phone?), much better internet capabilites (Opera 9 is being released this year). So there is absolutely nothing to say that this year should adhere to old patterns. Lets see how the story unfolds
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doministry Joined: Apr 13, 2007 Posts: > 500 From: PL PM, WWW
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@Sliderse
You repeat this "there's no P5" but for what? It's something you've made up.
In one thing you're right - they announce it when it's ready.
And I don't think that it's so simple to loose customers. Look at the iPhone or Nokia - often people buy things no matter what they bring.
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Tigershark42 Joined: Dec 05, 2007 Posts: > 500 PM |
Yes, while that something is new. But once its the same thing as the previous years, people will get wise to the fact that it isnt really an upgrade at all from one phone to another. |
jayce Joined: May 19, 2004 Posts: 105 PM |
Sony Ericsson don't make the bulk of their money from smartphones, they make it from volume phones and the walkman brand of phones. In that sector there is little brand loyalty, but in the smartphone sector there is somewhat more loyalty.
If aren't working on a new smartphone, then they may as well get out of this sector all together, however that's not a wise option either. Most large companies will have a "flagship" offering to demonstrate their leading edge technology, even if this doesn't sell in large quantities. It's expected of them.
With that in mind let's look at the current flagship phone, the P1i. It's an updated version of the M600i and by 's admission, the replacement for the P990i, however technology wise it's not all that different from the phone(s) it replaces.
Sure the memory has been increased and the screen is better quality but it doesn't significantly improve on the original design of the P990i, which was announced back towards the end of 2005 but never shipped until Sep/Oct of 2006.
Therefore the flagship phone is crying out for an update and while the P1i is a solid smartphone, it's not what most people expected.
Add to this the recent hype over prototype P5i units, the fact there are JPGs floating around with EXIM data claiming the photo was from a P5i and you have a compelling argument for a new flagship smartphone.
The only question is when are Sony Ericsson going to release it?
For that I'd have to speculate:
(a) When the technology is ready
(b) When the sales of the P1i are flat/declining
It would seem that 2008 is a good year for a really good flagship smartphone but only time will tell. I guess that's why we all spend so long trawling the forums
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