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razec
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Ray S must've mistaken Z1 as the 5S 
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sponse
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on xda some users are reporting bad viewing angles screens, while other are reporting better screens.
one users has reported that he has the same camera problem as with the gsmarena unit...
that's interesting.. quality control ??
i guess we should wait a bit, for the first batch. anyway next week it should arrive here in italy, i will go to the store, and tell you guys how it is in terms of screen and camera. |
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@sponse If I remember, though I'm not saying this is true and I don't remember who said it (I think DACHA, bad memory ), that Sony is using the old SE supply chain for its mobile display and that Sony is trying to dissolve the supply chain that's why there are Z1s with bad display (same VA panel from Z and ZL). Hopefully, Z1 would be the last to have a bad display. As for the tablets and the laptops, they use Sony's own supply chain which is probably why those have good screens like the ZU.
No trolling here, but those I've only read about are really probable IMO. |
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^There is no concrete evidence to know whether Triluminos is implemented differently than Triluminos for mobile. We can only speculate based on OFFICIAL documentation. By official documentation, I mean technology explanations directly from Sony, a Sony Official, or QD Vision (The company who sony acquired the quantum dot tech from).
Here's what we know (based on what I understand):
Triluminos works using a blue LED vs. a white LED in conventional LCD screens. It converts a portion of the blue LED light into deep red and green light, creating tri-chromatic (red, green and blue) white light, which then gets coupled into the light guide. The use of this tri-chromatic white light composed of highly saturated colors improves color gamut of the LCD from about 60-70 percent of the NTSC standard to 100 percent, making a brilliant, colorful image. (Source QDvision.com) clearly, this is a hardware enhancement
Triluminos for Mobile claims the same results as triluminos, but there is nothing that I have found that explains exactly how this work. However, if you read QDvision's explanation, it says it can be used "for display backlight units (BLUs) used in products including mobile devices." It also says that the technology uses nanocrystals which are "inherently efficient light emitters." As I posted pages and pages ago, there is some hint to how Triluminos for Mobile works. Sony's display engineer stated "Replicating the way they work together on mobile, as they do in BRAVIA TVs was tough. It involved a back-and-forth process of hardware modification and software parameter change; lots of meticulous planning and work. But, we believe that’s paid off in the experience created." (Source)
Based on this information, I speculate the following. Triluminos for Mobile does involve hardware modification. I do not believe it would be economical, practical, or feasible, for Sony to take old stock of Z/ZL LCD panels and modify each one to put in a new Z1. It'd be cheaper and much more efficient to simply set the manufacturing standards for a new Z1 panel and move forward. That is not to say there won't be differences in supply chains. Based on user experiences, reviews, etc.. it seems there is some disparity in the quality of a panel based on the supply chain. That being said, others here have mentioned that other vendors (apple, samsung) have similar issues from different suppliers. The main point here is that Sony is unlikely using old stock. However, there may be quality control issues from the various suppliers. Hopefully, it is a very small percentage of users of all Z1's sold (obviously no quality control is 100% perfect) and if it turns out to be a bigger problem, I sincerely hope Sony will step up and offer to replace the screens of any user who is unhappy with their screen for free.
Sorry for the long post! 
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Bonovox
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I wonder though Sony Bravia tv's have amazing picture quality but their mobiles are not always as good. Shame
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@sponse
Ya I just saw the info on GSMA, and it seems they found the HDR mode, although the images don't look that much different from each other. |
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On 2013-09-20 19:28:57, aurelius wrote:
I think the Ultra have better viewing angles because of OptiContrast, thats not included on Z1....if Im not mistaken.
it is a feature of the Z1.. http://www.sonymobile.com/au/[....]es/xperia-z1/features/#display
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itsjustJOH
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@moogoo If indeed Triluminos for mobile is the same as it is on their Bravias which is a backlight tech, then they can use different panels. And using the old panels might be cheaper, I think. Why SE had a bad supply chain and how it lasted for a long time, we can only speculate. As for now, I just find those claims very probable.
@Bonovox See, that's why I think the claims are very convincing. |
moogoo
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@itsjustJOH - I think it's plausible if the panels used on Z/ZL never had their backlight units (BLU) attached. If they had them attached into a complete LCD module (which I think is likely), it wouldn't be economical to disassemble them in order to change the BLUs.. know what I mean?
I don't know and I don't claim to know how suppliers and manufacturers work together for these various components so I can't say for certain. Like I said, I am merely speculating
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After all readings from various reviews, I feel more inclined to skip the Xperia Z1 
I just want the damn thing to reach the American border, because I want to try it out first before a definite decision.
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^sorry to hear that you feel that way man! But I understand your concern. Don't you go to europe often? schedule a trip 
I'm sure i will still be getting a Z1. just not sure when I'll be ordering it. I am still waiting a bit to see if C6906 comes out..
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@MusaD.. do you read the thread at all before you post? you seem to repost a lot of things already here.. hehe.. it's ok. i'm just letting you know.
with a new firmware update rolling out already.. i'm really curious to see if there are any major changes in camera quality, sound volume/quality, and/or screen quality (for those who aren't happy with it)
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McKinley
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By the time I get back to Europe, the successor will have been released already.
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too bad. if you could go soon, i'd ask you to get me one too and make sure the screen is up to par and then send it when you get back to the states.. oh well.
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Posted: 2013-09-20 18:37
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