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yea g
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Yes! thats the phone I saw, I must not have noticed the screen on it, but now that you mention it. Anyways the telecom ad is now replaced with one for Ms windows vista (lol)
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Muhammad-Oli
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Well it looks like Vodafone have flicked the HSDPA switch into the ON position here in Christchurch. I've been getting constant HSDPA reception all day at home and now at work too. Haven't tested it yet though.
Before today I've only ever seen the 'H' three or four times, which I assume was just when they were testing or something.
Also, the other day did you guys do the poll that Vodafone sent out to your email addresses(assuming you're all signed up)? The first few questions were:
Have you heard of Telecom T-Day?
Have you heard of NZ Comms?
Have you heard of Black+White?
Maybe these are signs that Vodafone is getting serious...
EDIT: Just tried the HSDPA and it seems definitely not as fast as my Telecom broadband connection at home.
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WOrd is that they are currently laughing at Telecom for unbundling their network, as they fully intend to lockdown their network features to protect themselves from the competition. Apparently
And yes wow I just looked and I indeed have a capital H on my screen
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yea g
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Haha in auckland, we have had HSDPA for like over a year 
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2009-03-19 07:49:00, frankthetank wrote:
And yes wow I just looked and I indeed have a capital H on my screen
I wondered whether you'd show up and confirm the H symbol. 
And yeah I figured Vodafone were probably laughing at the pathetic claims Telecom are making about their network. Telecom's new network really doesn't sound any further ahead than Vodafone's and is probably actually streets behind. I wouldn't be surprised.
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Evilchap
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totaly off topic, but while playing a bit of COD4 online last night there was a random sniper with a New Zealand typical high ping and he went by the name Oli, could it be?........... |
Muhammad-Oli
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Sorry mate, not me. I have a PS3 but no COD4, and my PSN is Tabooger as in Oli Tabooger (say it fast).
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yea g
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Yea his crappy simpsons quote he claims as his own...
I have a feeling telecom will not get UMTS or HSDPA for a while after they release their new network. And where has NZ comms been lately?
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carkitter
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On 2009-03-19 07:49:00, frankthetank wrote:
WOrd is that they are currently laughing at Telecom for unbundling their network, as they fully intend to lockdown their network features to protect themselves from the competition. Apparently
And yes wow I just looked and I indeed have a capital H on my screen
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Vodafone wouldn't have a landline network if it wasn't for Govt enforced unbundling of Telecom's network. It's Telecom's exchanges that house the Red Network's ADSL2+ equipment. If Vodafone got into a dominant position then I would expect them to come under the same sort of Govt pressure that Telecom recieved.
I don't think the V640i has a H symbol to display, it shows 3G+ instead.
I recently returned a speed test of 2.6Mbps in Pukekohe using Vodafone's 3G but have seen as much as 6.2Mbps from the same cellsite tested by others. That cellsite was 900MHz only, so my Vodem Stick picked it up but the V800/V640i/iPhone 3G could not. That appears to be the catch with Vodafone trying to meet the Govt's requirement of 3G coverage to 97% of the country.
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Your C902 supports HSDPA 2100MHz so you'll get an H in some places but probably not in others where the new 900MHz cellsites are. 2100MHz can handle higher capacity so is used in urban areas, while 900MHz can travel further with less signal degradation so is used for rural areas.
For a thread on rural 3G cellsites rolled out recently, look here.
@yea g
Telecom's new network does not include 2G or 2.5G (GPRS/EGDE) so its either 3G/3.5G or nothing. Speed could be anywhere up to 14.4Mbps and due to low initial usage (lack of customers) speedtests could return some pretty amazing results which will then drop as many people take advantage of it. Due to a lower capacity per cellsite (Telecom are using the 850MHz band - much lower than high capacity 2100MHz) there will either need to be more sites (high capital expenditure causing delays in rollout) or low capacity (overloading leading to upset customers). 850MHz should deliver good reception though.
It has been confirmed to me that there are no cellsite's on Auckland's North Shore at present which are 7.2Mbps capable.  The fastest speed I've seen is 1.7Mbps in Whangaparoa with 1.0 - 1.3Mbps in most other suburbs.
That means Vodafone had better pull their finger out and get some updated equipment up here or risk leaving a big opportunity for Telecom. I have a feeling a lot of the HSDPA 2100MHz equipment in Auckland has a maximum speed of 1.8Mbps.
Sorry for the long post, but the upshot of all this is that choosing a future phone just got more tricky as one decides whether to get a 'standard' 2100MHz phone, a 'wide range' 900/2100MHz phone capable of getting Vodafone 3G anywhere or a 'compromise' (US spec) 850/2100MHz phone capable of swapping between Telecom and urban Vodafone coverage.
Me? I'm happy with the iPhone at the moment, but will be looking for a 'wide range' Vodafone phone like the W715 in the future and a USB modem that is 850MHz capable to test the speed of the Telecom network.
Idou specs are not available yet but I would expect it to be 900/2100Mhz capable.
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Muhammad-Oli
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On 2009-03-21 23:18:22, carkitter wrote:
Telecom's new network does not include 2G or 2.5G (GPRS/EGDE) so its either 3G/3.5G or nothing.
@carkitter: Cheers for the info. But if Telecom is only 3G/3.5G, then how are people supposed to call and text on its network?
A few times in Christchurch I've had zero GSM coverage and only 3G coverage and I have been unable to call or text. I have only been able to use GPRS/3G based features such as pxting or video calling.
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carkitter
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Hmm... that's odd, I would have thought all services would work over all technologies 2G thru to 3.5G. Perhaps Vodafone default to a mixture of frequencies for some services, but that would be dependant on the area and it's coverage ideosyncracies I would expect.
Anyway, Telecom will offer txt and calling over 3G/3.5G as well as data and advanced services like MMS, etc.
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yea g
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Well I do know you can text on 3g with no gsm (on vodafone) but calling seems to need gsm
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Muhammad-Oli
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I've had several texts fail to send when I have no GSM coverage. But I guess it must be operator dependent.
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yea g
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Yea.
So anyone heard anything from nz comms lately?
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carkitter
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No, but they have deployed a huge number of cellsites around Auckland so they must be up to something. Rumour has it they intend to launch about the same time as T-day, but they won't be using the name NZ Communications in their marketing.
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