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WirelessMonkey
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Yes, this time they did - they are only using Siemens. Their 3G network is brilliant but still has a long way to go before it's widely available. The signals on both MTN and Voda are overall weak and intermittent. Where I live MTN is the best, at my office Vodacom is the best. Thank goodness I have both.
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Tahir Ally
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@wireless monkey any cellular network that wants a 3G network has to deploy a complete new network.You can not upgrade a 2G network to 3G.3G is a completely new system and a new frequency.Vodacom was rolling out its EDGE network since March this year but they are focusing on a WIDE 3G COVERAGE.Vodacom stated numerous times that by end of this year 3G coverage will be almost anywhere in SA..........Vodacom computer deals packaged with current 3G packages will be launched this week.All computers are HP.I will post pc specs tomorrow.I know i promised yesterday
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sIssIs
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Vodacom didn't say that. They said 600 more base stations is up by the year ended. Well what I think WM meaned by MTN only have to upgrade their stuff , and not putting up a new network is... that MTN only have to put the 3Gbox thingy nest to the other ericsson 2.5G box. But isn't that the same as any other... btu who cares. Um... I just want to know who is the best Vendor? Or are all vendor the same? I same somewhere Ericsson said they are the best... but is that only because they are used the most?
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WirelessMonkey
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At all - my professional experience with data is that MTN has always excelled. NOw I'm not saying that Vodacom is bad - in fact I've been showering praises on them for delivering as stated. Shown to me in the field by both is how they have integrated 3G with existing technology - the old transmitters are literally being fitted with a third UMTS antenna so that now each antenna on a base station (which has three facing in different directions) now also has a 3G one fitted. Now, with MTN the difference is inside the little container box that sits on each site. MTN are swopping out boxes and replacing old dated GSM boxes with new GSM/EDGE/WCMDA boxes - I think they may have just had a better opportunity to bring EDGE in at possible a lower cost than it will cost Vodacom to do this. Fact is that both networks are going the EDGE/WCDMA route, but that MTN were first. In defense of the blokes in Y'ello land - their 3G trials having been going longer than Vodacom. It's no secret that Sony Ericsson and Ericsson share the same building and hence why I have been privileged to some inside info there. But I don't actually have access to either networks so I'm not going to be stating facts I cannot support. Rest assured that South Africans are luckier than most others in that we are getting good technology being deployed and we will see the benefits in years to come. My hat's off to both - and even to Cell C for innovating with new contract ideas.
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Tahir Ally
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If MTN just have to add a small box its network.It should have UPGRADED ITS whole network completely and it was the case of just putting a small box.Why is MTN upgrading its current network to EDGE.......I think WM needs to clarify what he means by UPGRADE.Other networks that use ERICSSON ONLY for it 2G networks are rolling out a A NEW 3G NETWORK.No such thing of software upgrades or adding a box to a 2G network that will make it 3G.Ha Ha HA.....Yes ERICSSON are WORLD LEADERS when it comes to network equipment
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brix25
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@Tahir: Which one is better? Vodacom=3G/GPRS
MTN= 3G/EDGE/GPRS
Go figure which one seems the better connection.
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Tahir Ally
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@ Brix All i was saying is if any network that wants 3G.You have to roll out a NEW NETWORK.What WM was saying is MTN has all system in one.In other words he is trying to say where ever MTN has EDGE it will have 3G coverage because its in one base station.....THATS BULLSHIT.What networks are doing is there are putting a NODE(3G base station) next to the 2G base station and installing 3G antenaes on current masts.NETWORKS ARE NOT REMOVING 2G base station but adding 3G NODES next to each other
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WirelessMonkey
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Dudes don't even try and draw me into a "Who is the better connection" crap. Overall I stand on neutral ground with respect to all networks - on a more detailed level I will confess that each network has strengths and weaknesses. Dear Mr Ally while I'm encouraged by your devotion to a network, these are after all just companies that deliver a wide variety of services and products. I don't think that debating this issue calls for blinded devotion - it calls for an intellectual discussion aimed at sharing information and teaching each other more about this amazing technology. It's an empowering technology and we'll do better teaching everyone how to use it to better themselves, than to dwell on trivialities. Be inspired by what each network is doing and encourage the forward movement of such progress. I don't keep a score card - I celebrate each achievement being accomplished. My hat of to all who work diligently to deliver mobile empowerment to Africa.
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WirelessMonkey
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On 2005-06-19 15:13:42, sIssIs wrote:
That album thing is not much exciting, lol. Umm on the Vodafone Live! menu we also have a Live! Studio.... but it is still under construction.
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I say no more - "under construction" usually means that it's not functional. I was playing on Vodafone live! weeks before it went live and I noted this link. It may however still take time before this link becomes active. As for live TV on Vodafone live! - I have it on good authority that this will not happen before 2006.
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brix25
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Please could anyone tell me if the 6680 will be branded in Vodafone's red.
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Tahir Ally
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The Vodafone branded Nokia 6680 will be available at the end of July
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brix25
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@Mohil: Where did you get that 6680... Tahir has just put me off.
Way off topic, just check out grouphug.us for some serious dysfunctional people spilling their guts. Defo one of my favourite sites.
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Tahir Ally
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Vodacom has plenty of stock which is not branded.Like i said before Vodafone branded 6680 will be available at the end of July........The 6680 is selling as fast as the Samsung D500.@Brix jus visit your nearest Vodashop for a 6680.MTN will only have it for sale in the middle of July or in August because they have software issues with the phone.
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Mohil
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Brix: I ordered the phone from Vodacom Direct. It was delivered to me last Wednesday. It's not a Vlive phone. I would like to add to my review though:
Battery life is lasting me about 4 days with frequent use, but I do have one major issue with my handset - I HAVE to switch the phone off to charge it, cos charging while it's on seems to have no effect. The battery meter shows that it's charging, but I left it to charge overnight, and in the morning it was still charging. I took it off charge, and the battery level was the same as before. I switched off, and it charged fully in half an hour.
If anyone else has a 6680, please tell me if you're having the same problem. Any chance of an available software update I can have done on my phone? Other than that, the phone is just peachy.
I don't seem to pick up 3g signal all the time though. I'd say about 50% of the time. Also, I still have not made a video call. |
brix25
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@Mohil: Thanks mate. Yep, the problem with the battery seems on the surface to be a software fault. I'm in Cape Town and have noticed that Vodacom's 3G signal is only available in certain locations and the cells seem to be very small. Good luck with your 6680.
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