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rickster2kuk
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Posted: 2013-03-04 20:27
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Where do I start:

Colours seem all washed out, up close all the details are smudged, suspect focus issue to the left side of the image.
tyko
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Posted: 2013-03-04 20:35
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Yes, the photos are a mess. Looks like they have been run over by the photoshop smudge tool
bart1988
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Posted: 2013-03-04 20:39
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The reason the details are smudged is because it's dark and because of noise filtering. However, the text on the buildings is perfectly readable. The colours are vivid, nice contrast.
Clearly this is a software thing. The exmor rs sensor is capable of collecting more light than previous sensors. The problem is the noise filtering. So maybe sony could tweak this or provide an option to choose the level of filtering.
doministry
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Posted: 2013-03-04 20:41
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On 2013-03-04 17:52:09, northmonkey wrote:

On 2013-03-04 17:36:56, doministry wrote:
Well Saturn is well known for having crappy showoff units.

Why don't you guys look at the page 106 where are my 4 shots of z in polish Sony store,
of course THERE IS A logo on ot.

Today I filmed Z by my T in Austria. Will try to post it on YouTube soon.
The screen is great and better than T especially in whites.



Doministry do you think that Sony has printed their logo on the screen protectors or the phone?

don't know that honestly.
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MyP910
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Posted: 2013-03-04 20:45
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On 2013-03-04 20:27:37, rickster2kuk wrote:
Where do I start:

Colours seem all washed out, up close all the details are smudged, suspect focus issue to the left side of the image.


Are you sure your eyes is okay ? Try looking at 100% crop....to have that kind of picture from a smartphone is amazing. I was surprised at the noise level and details.
tyko
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Posted: 2013-03-04 20:47
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Maybe its not such a good sensor if you need to do such exstensive noise reduction.
tyko
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Posted: 2013-03-04 20:54
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Whats with the eyes checking? Looking at the crops just reveals the result even better. It shows no noise because its smudged away. Thats something different from saying the pics are noise free, because they arent
bart1988
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Posted: 2013-03-04 21:41
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On 2013-03-04 20:47:42, tyko wrote:
Maybe its not such a good sensor if you need to do such exstensive noise reduction.


Who says there is a need to do such noise reduction? Maybe sony likes it that way? If you do less noise reduction the colors, contrast and low light performance would still be the same and they are very good. There are enough comparisons that prove the camera of the xperia z is better than the competition except maybe the lumia 808 or something. It really isn't a bad camera. The noise reduction is a bit too much for some, but that is a software thing.
goldenface
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Posted: 2013-03-04 21:48
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I just want pictures that look good and natural on my laptop and in my photo frame. I can't remember when I looked at a photograph that close up and I'm sure that is not how most people judge a picture.

I'd say low light performance is more important than smudging that is only noticeable when you zoom in to the picture and examine it in the most minutest detail. Surely, that isn't the only way you judge a picture.

@northmonkey

There was a discussion back in the thread where we found out that the logo was printed on the screen protector, which doesn't make much sense to me.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2013-03-04 20:51 ]
tyko
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Posted: 2013-03-04 22:00
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Well, if some comparisons show that its better than the competition who am I to say the pics dont look so good. I will from now on only rely on those and ignore my eyesight and reviews that states otherwise. Maybe I do need to get my eyes checked...
Bonovox
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Posted: 2013-03-04 22:08
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On 2013-03-04 20:27:37, rickster2kuk wrote:
Where do I start:

Colours seem all washed out, up close all the details are smudged, suspect focus issue to the left side of the image.


That's what I seen.Left side blurring,again
[ This Message was edited by: Sean72 on 2013-03-04 21:09 ]
Phone?? What phone??
coolkid8689
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Posted: 2013-03-04 22:10
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@tyko... Cool... Cool... You don't have to like the cam, if you don't want to... You've the rights...
But you can consider the reviews..... Only PA claimed the cam to be bad... GSM actually praised the cam... If you go thro' the review, you'll know it... If you still can't believe, you can go thro' the reviews of blunty on youtube, gizmodo that was posted a few pages ago, jus to see how Z's cam performs against ip-5... It clearly beats ip-5 in terms of low-light & ties with it in day-light shoot... Also frandroid, eprice, stuff have given great reviews & thumbs-up to Z's camera... After all, it's up to you to decide... I'm jus telling my opinion... Cheers...
northmonkey
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Posted: 2013-03-04 22:11
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On 2013-03-04 21:48:21, goldenface wrote:
I just want pictures that look good and natural on my laptop and in my photo frame. I can't remember when I looked at a photograph that close up and I'm sure that is not how most people judge a picture.

I'd say low light performance is more important than smudging that is only noticeable when you zoom in to the picture and examine it in the most minutest detail. Surely, that isn't the only way you judge a picture.

@northmonkey

There was a discussion back in the thread where we found out that the logo was printed on the screen protector, which doesn't make much sense to me.
[ This Message was edited by: goldenface on 2013-03-04 20:51 ]


I just hope the sony logos were only printed on the screen protector on prototypes or something as that would really put me off buying it.
tyko
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Posted: 2013-03-04 22:27
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Im not "against" the XZ, the photos are passable, just dont like sonys aggressive post processing. Regarding reviews, there are some that likes it and some dont, its still opinions. But like goldenface wrote, depending how you watch your photos there are different criteria how you judge the quality.
goldenface
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Posted: 2013-03-04 22:54
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I think in the grand scheme of things there is very little between the cameras of all the top phones right now. They all excel in some areas and don't fair quite as well in others.

What I like about this cam is they have made great steps in low-light performance, which is an innovation in the camera department that goes a long way toward solving the big problem associated with small sensors.
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