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bavlondon2
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Thats just wishful thinking imo. This isnt iphone. lol
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On 2008-05-10 02:59:57, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-05-08 15:39:05, rambo47 wrote:
On another forum about another phone, this guy posted some pics and a link to his site. He has the X1 on a "pre-sale" basis for $1799!! That's gonna hurt! The rest of his prices are in line, so it's not like he's posting wild-ass prices all around. If that's any indication of the official price at release, well, that's not good.
http://www.dechowireless.com/[....]ERICSSON_XPERIA_X1-pid264.html
It's not officially available yet so how can he sell it? My guess is "pre-sale" is just a fancy term for "order now". If you buy this phone for $1799, you might if you are lucky get delivery a day or two before it hits the stores everywhere else. But by the time it does hit the stores the phone will be 40% cheaper. So if you want to spend several hundred dollars to get the phone a day or two early, go for it. I know myself I'll be waiting atleast three months after release before buying.
Looks like only $949 to me on that site. That is what I see on other sites as well. So this price is in line with others posted.
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On 2008-05-10 19:53:39, bavlondon2 wrote:
Thats just wishful thinking imo. This isnt iphone. lol
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On 2008-05-10 21:06:41, Residentevil wrote:
Looks like only $949 to me on that site. That is what I see on other sites as well. So this price is in line with others posted.
Now maybe, but a few days ago it was listed as $1799!!
$949 is more what I would expect for a phone of this calibre.
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Question is, is 128mb of RAM enough for a WM device? WM devices are known to be memory hungry. I was hoping SE would up their game and throw in 192-256mb RAM, something unheard of (like what HTC Diamond is now packing) to address to the WM situation or perhaps as an allowance for future killer apps that may require a tremendous amount of RAM. I wouldn't have a doubt if it were running on UIQ
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WhyBe
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Are there any current WM apps that need that much memory? |
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X1 or P5?
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On 2008-05-11 03:57:11, WhyBe wrote:
Are there any current WM apps that need that much memory?
I'm not referring to any single app, more for seamless multitasking
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On 2008-05-11 02:34:12, mode wrote:
Question is, is 128mb of RAM enough for a WM device? WM devices are known to be memory hungry. I was hoping SE would up their game and throw in 192-256mb RAM, something unheard of (like what HTC Diamond is now packing) to address to the WM situation or perhaps as an allowance for future killer apps that may require a tremendous amount of RAM. I wouldn't have a doubt if it were running on UIQ
I agree more than 128 would not be unwelcome, but I think it will run fine with 128. That's still a fair bit of memory, expecially if you store Apps on the mem card. Personally I actually don't find WM to be that much of a memory hog. Poorly written programs can pull the OS down, but if you have a good suite of apps that run well, then you can usualy have a fair bit happening before it starts to grind.
Using a third party task switcher that allows you to fully close apps when you close them also helps the mulit-task situation. Why have programs running that you aren't using?
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Using a third party task switcher that allows you to fully close apps when you close them also helps the mulit-task situation. Why have programs running that you aren't using?
The question is, why not? Constant closing of apps reduces battery life and being a work beast that it is, unnecessary power waste is the last thing it needs
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On 2008-05-11 06:51:48, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-05-11 02:34:12, mode wrote:
Question is, is 128mb of RAM enough for a WM device? WM devices are known to be memory hungry. I was hoping SE would up their game and throw in 192-256mb RAM, something unheard of (like what HTC Diamond is now packing) to address to the WM situation or perhaps as an allowance for future killer apps that may require a tremendous amount of RAM. I wouldn't have a doubt if it were running on UIQ
I agree more than 128 would not be unwelcome, but I think it will run fine with 128. That's still a fair bit of memory, expecially if you store Apps on the mem card. Personally I actually don't find WM to be that much of a memory hog. Poorly written programs can pull the OS down, but if you have a good suite of apps that run well, then you can usualy have a fair bit happening before it starts to grind.
Using a third party task switcher that allows you to fully close apps when you close them also helps the mulit-task situation. Why have programs running that you aren't using?
Totally agreed. When WM Pro devices went from 64 to 128MB RAM they sang like a spring bird. HTC Diamond & TyTN II need the 256MB & 192MB respectively because of the Touch GUI overlea. Its VERY demanding and to be honest this is something Microsofts engineers/coders should've done from the get go.
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On 2008-05-11 07:02:51, mode wrote:
Using a third party task switcher that allows you to fully close apps when you close them also helps the mulit-task situation. Why have programs running that you aren't using?
The question is, why not? Constant closing of apps reduces battery life and being a work beast that it is, unnecessary power waste is the last thing it needs
You're wrong. Running applications consume more power than closing them. They use CPU and RAM in the background, how could they be battery friendly? |
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We'll theres no single app that can eat over 80MB of ram on the phon. Although with the larger screen size an app that ate about 1MB RAM on a QVGA screen should eat about 3-4MB on the VGA one. So putting in a bit more RAM would have been useful. But in "normal" daily usage it should be sufficent, unless like me you run pointUI, SPBMobile shell, GPS, CorePlayer and a host of other applications simultaneously, but if you did do that, battery life would be the least of your concern  .
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You're wrong. Running applications consume more power than closing them. They use CPU and RAM in the background, how could they be battery friendly?
AFAIK idle programs do not consume power, only when you're multitasking (eg listening to the mediaplayer while surfing the web) in which case all the apps are running at the same time. What I'm saying is some apps are convenient to be lying idle in the background while performing certain tasks with other apps. This saves time and power as compared to having to constantly open and close apps in the background. As we all know, P990 is useless in multitasking, apps have to be opened and closed all the time, that's why the battery drains much faster than P1 with the same battery.
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On 2008-05-11 09:35:42, mode wrote:
You're wrong. Running applications consume more power than closing them. They use CPU and RAM in the background, how could they be battery friendly?
AFAIK idle programs do not consume power, only when you're multitasking (eg listening to the mediaplayer while surfing the web) in which case all the apps are running at the same time. What I'm saying is some apps are convenient to be lying idle in the background while performing certain tasks with other apps. This saves time and power as compared to having to constantly open and close apps in the background. As we all know, P990 is useless in multitasking, apps have to be opened and closed all the time, that's why the battery drains much faster than P1 with the same battery.
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Idle programs DO consume more power than completely closed programs . When a program is idle, it is still using hardware resources albeit to a very much reduced extent. Eg: If my TyTn II is in idle with the usual background processes, it consumes 7maH, but if I close all the non critical proceses I can drop the consumption to about 1 - 2maH in idle. Thats like a 3-7 time decrease in comsumption. Its actually better to start an app when required and close it when it is'nt, anyway when you touch the touch screen consumption jumps to about 100mah, and opening of the app will not further load the CPU, although running it will.
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