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Posted: 2010-01-14 16:41
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http://www.electricpig.co.uk/[....]ny-ericsson-xperia-x10-review/

four stars already and it was only a pre-production model!
Things are looking up!
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Posted: 2010-01-14 17:12
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On 2010-01-14 14:01:11, Boinng wrote:

On 2010-01-14 13:45:14, doministry wrote:
And dozens of other less popular HTC devices didn't get the update either.


True, and I'm not about to start banging a drum for HTC, although across their range they have been known to provide free updates for some of their Winmo and Android handsets. Even before WM6.5, they updated some of their original WM5 phones to WM6, WM6 phones to 6.1, etc. Not all, but some.

It's a stark, solid fact that SE have never provided a major OS update for any of their smartphones. Ever. Patches and fixes yes, but nothing more than that, and nothing on the scale of a move from Android 1.6 to 2.0 for example. That's not saying it won't happen for the X10, just that they have absolutely no history of it, no experience of releasing such an upgrade, and actually quite a few WM and UIQ users who have been disappointed by a lack of similar updates in the past.
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Ok, that might be true (not really into the history of such things), but I guess in none of that cases SE said they would update and in none of that cases the newer OS was already there on release.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 17:27
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On 2010-01-14 17:12:15, domipost wrote:
Ok, that might be true (not really into the history of such things), but I guess in none of that cases SE said they would update and in none of that cases the newer OS was already there on release.


What "SE said" tends to become a very subjective thing over time - in the build up to every new phone there are always a lot of quotes and hearsay flying around, and yes, I'm sure that at various times in the past it's been thought that SE promised various things that never transpired. But it's fair to say the newer OS wasn't already there on release, because in the past SE tended to use the latest version in whichever phone they were releasing

Even if the 2.0 update is a dead cert, and coming sooner rather than later, what about 2.5, or 3.0? It's worth thinking about, with a phone like this. By the time the X10 is released, 2.1 may well be a couple of months old, Nexus One owners are bound to be preparing for their 2.2 update or whatever comes next - given the level of customisation on the X10, are SE likely to keep pace? I'm guessing it's a no.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 17:36
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On 2010-01-14 16:41:45, hydro- wrote:
http://www.electricpig.co.uk/[....]ny-ericsson-xperia-x10-review/

four stars already and it was only a pre-production model!
Things are looking up!


interesting how the first page of the review says it will miss out on features such as google nav. afaik google nav works on 1.6 as well.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 18:24
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I do not want to make a list of features that X10 lack which I think it should have but I can't help it. SE does not seem to listen. With the announcement of the Apple 4G just few months away and ever increasing Android powered cell phones that are in the market and are going to be announced, how can X10 be a success? It lacks features that Iphone 3GS has, last year's top phone. Aside from the Mediascape and Timescape, what else X10 has to offer? Perhaps, a 4" inch WVGA capacitive screen with 265K colors, an 8 megapixel camera and WVGA resolution recording capability, and of course, powerful 1ghz snapdragon cpu.

The list features that I posted few pages back is X10 needs in order to stay revelant in the high end market plus the netflix integration and PS3 remote software, X10 would be definitely and undeniable a device to have for in 2010.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 18:31
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To be honest, I think amongst Android devices Mediascape, the good 8.1MP camera, and face recognition is going to be enough to differentiate it from other Android handsets. Android has a pisspoor stock media player, terrible cameras (up until the Nexus one, but the camera software on the X10 still is worlds beyond HTCs). Timescape has been done before and is nothing new (conglomeration of communication from multiple sources).
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On 2010-01-14 18:24:40, rss_ndrsn wrote:
I do not want to make a list of features that X10 lack which I think it should have but I can't help it. SE does not seem to listen. With the announcement of the Apple 4G just few months away and ever increasing Android powered cell phones that are in the market and are going to be announced, how can X10 be a success? It lacks features that Iphone 3GS has, last year's top phone. Aside from the Mediascape and Timescape, what else X10 has to offer? Perhaps, a 4" inch WVGA capacitive screen with 265K colors, an 8 megapixel camera and WVGA resolution recording capability, and of course, powerful 1ghz snapdragon cpu.

The list features that I posted few pages back is X10 needs in order to stay revelant in the high end market plus the netflix integration and PS3 remote software, X10 would be definitely and undeniable a device to have for in 2010.


what exactly does the 3GS have over the X10 ? i can't think of a single thing...
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Posted: 2010-01-14 20:50
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the user interface and the apple.
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what exactly does the 3GS have over the X10 ? i can't think of a single thing...



nearly 8mos of availability ... and an anticipated younger bigger stronger tablet, in addition to another iteration of the phone. i nice hate apple but lets be clear here, theres a lot the 3gs has the x10 wont even when it is out.

f**k an iphone though.
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On 2010-01-14 19:12:15, moogoo wrote:
what exactly does the 3GS have over the X10 ? i can't think of a single thing...


Multitouch. Approximately 90,000 apps. Several million users. The real question is, how is the X10 going to fend off the next iPhone? Is Timescape really going to cut it?
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Posted: 2010-01-14 22:09
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On 2010-01-14 21:58:22, Boinng wrote:

On 2010-01-14 19:12:15, moogoo wrote:
what exactly does the 3GS have over the X10 ? i can't think of a single thing...


Multitouch. Approximately 90,000 apps. Several million users. The real question is, how is the X10 going to fend off the next iPhone? Is Timescape really going to cut it?



That's really much! I'm almost speachless....

But seriously, I think it will take long time for anybody
to repeat the Apple sale numbers.

It never happens because of amazing set of features, people,
wake up.
a w a r e
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Posted: 2010-01-15 03:21
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What SE have to do is to make sure that X10 will have "unparallel features" for few months. When you're up against a company like Apple, good or better is not enough; you got to be the best.
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On 2010-01-14 21:58:22, Boinng wrote:

On 2010-01-14 19:12:15, moogoo wrote:
what exactly does the 3GS have over the X10 ? i can't think of a single thing...


Multitouch. Approximately 90,000 apps. Several million users. The real question is, how is the X10 going to fend off the next iPhone? Is Timescape really going to cut it?



Millions of users? sure. they have good marketing and the user interface is fun and easy to use. i can't argue that.

90,000 aps .. with about 50% that are simply crap apps. Android market is just starting and with more than just one manufacturer pumping out android phones, it will soon have just as many if not more apps than that available for iphone.

X10's multi-touch is not a limitation of its hardware, but of android. Which as we all know can be implemented if desired.

How bout something 3GS doesn't have... of high importance to me - MULTI-TASKING.
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The X10 does not have multitasking feature as well right?
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Posted: 2010-01-15 07:06
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It does. When you open an application in X10 and press the middle button, you don't close but minimize it. That's why you need to use a task manager to swich between the opened apps and to close the paas which aren't in use.
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