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aksd
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On 2008-05-08 15:32:11, WhyBe wrote:
What's the deal with these WinMo GUIs (TouchFlo 3D and Xperia)? Is it the chipset or the OS causing the graphics sluggishness?
WIth the Xperia it could be the 3D drivers have'nt been implemented yet. I did'nt see much slugishness with the Diamond, and according to several people who were present at the event a few models were a bit sluggish while others were quite fluid in their animations(reference from www.modaco.com). It depends which ones video you saw. It might be that there were different builds as test phones. And as you see from the videos the RAM claimed 128MB when in reality it is going to be 192MB, so there will be a hardware upgrade before release.
Also while testing a "test" WM6.1 ROM on my TyTn II, the device became sluggish, this is due to improper optimization of the OS while compiling. Might have been a similar problem as they were all prototypes.
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rambo47
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On another forum about another phone, this guy posted some pics and a link to his site. He has the X1 on a "pre-sale" basis for $1799!! That's gonna hurt! The rest of his prices are in line, so it's not like he's posting wild-ass prices all around. If that's any indication of the official price at release, well, that's not good.
http://www.dechowireless.com/[....]ERICSSON_XPERIA_X1-pid264.html
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yes... i konw that... it's WM6.1 and is made by microsoft. 
and it's platform is tested and it will perform well.
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maybe it is $799. |
single_luis
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Well, the truth ... I do not think they saw the P5 is possible that these two teams are given some of the most orders do not believe that one already possesses the 5MP and another 6.0 windows myself hope that the P5 exit the 3G 850 
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imranbashir
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On 2008-05-08 12:15:16, ares wrote:
Could not care less about this...SE should have let HTC handle the software part also, they are way more used to develop in WM...SE should have their engineering resources focused on UIQ, not on this....
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imranbashir
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I fail to understand why Eldars comments affect peoples judgement on the phone, I understand if it was a non smart phone, then you're stuck with any old rubbish they throw at you with respect to apps, but this is a smartphone, not just any smartphone but its powered by WM , the number of apps avaialbe for it are countless and increasing by the day. Most probably even if it comes with all the plugins etc, you'll end up using a 3rd party application to do the same job. Eg: Even if SE's media player is so fancy I'd still use coreplayer, it supports almost all know codecs and video playback is fabulous. So I think before jumping to conclusions I think we must be patient to see what the end product has to offer.
I totally agree with this, when I first heard about the phone it wasn’t the panels that interested me it was the hardware. It is now to far down the line to start changing the hardware, so the phone will be fine.
I would have probably removed the panels interface anyway, and reassigned the X button to say connectivity or navigation.
The only other thing they can get wrong is the camera interface, and media manager. But again there are alternatives so no need to worry. In fact that probably a blessing in disguise as that means less for SE to get wrong!
The only thing anyone should be worried about is video drivers, competition, and price. I’m not sure how good the people over at XDA-Developers are, but trying to cook the ROM to include TouchFlo 3D might be difficult, as the screen resolution is different so is the aspect ratio.
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WhyBe
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From the videos, the only glaring X1 problem I saw was the choppy/sluggish graphics. Everything else appeared to be OK. Even the camera interface was pretty slick with the touch focus and all.
So if this vague info from Eldar has any validity, what specific problems is SE having with the X1?
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aksd
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On 2008-05-08 18:18:43, imranbashir wrote:
The only thing anyone should be worried about is video drivers, competition, and price. I’m not sure how good the people over at XDA-Developers are, but trying to cook the ROM to include TouchFlo 3D might be difficult, as the screen resolution is different so is the aspect ratio.
I beg to disagree here , actually TOuchFlo 3D will be better on the X1. TouchFlo 3D is nothing but a today screen plugin that covers the entire area of the display. This limits the usage of other plugins which is what WM is famous for. If you want to use your plugins with the Diamond you'd have to disable the TOuchFlo today plugin. But once TouchFlo is installed on the X1, you'd have a bit more real estate on the screen to run your own plugins . You'd also have the SE panels , which is more of an application. SO you get best of both worlds
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MYB87
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i dont think you will be able to use the touchFLO 3D from the diamond in X1 coz of screen size and resolution |
aksd
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Screen size has nothing to do with it. And since the resolution is larger its not an issue, especially when the resolution is larger length wise. That leaves a bit of open area on the screen to the top or the bottom. There will be issues in landscape mode, but in portrait I doubt that there would be any problem.
A beta version of VGA touchFlo 3D is running although only at 3-4 fps on current HTC phones of QVGA resolution. Link to TOuchFLo 3D i.e Manila on HTC phones
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=363500
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karlosperu
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New update on Sony Ericsson site. Now Xperia X1 has another back
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Yakkaimono
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The brushed metal battery cover looks much better than the plain one. |
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On 2008-05-08 15:39:05, rambo47 wrote:
On another forum about another phone, this guy posted some pics and a link to his site. He has the X1 on a "pre-sale" basis for $1799!! That's gonna hurt! The rest of his prices are in line, so it's not like he's posting wild-ass prices all around. If that's any indication of the official price at release, well, that's not good.
http://www.dechowireless.com/[....]ERICSSON_XPERIA_X1-pid264.html
It's not officially available yet so how can he sell it? My guess is "pre-sale" is just a fancy term for "order now". If you buy this phone for $1799, you might if you are lucky get delivery a day or two before it hits the stores everywhere else. But by the time it does hit the stores the phone will be 40% cheaper. So if you want to spend several hundred dollars to get the phone a day or two early, go for it. I know myself I'll be waiting atleast three months after release before buying.
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WhyBe
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Wouldn't it be nice if this phone, up until it's release date, kept evolving into something greater? Seeing as how they announced it so early and it being on the higher end of the price scale, maybe SE has some pleasant suprises in store? |
Osmano
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I'll keep my fingers crossed for that
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