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Posted: 2010-01-14 02:08
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On 2010-01-14 00:43:26, Saka wrote:

On 2010-01-13 22:56:21, S4k1s wrote:
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Forum > Sony Ericsson > Android > Sony Ericsson X10 Official Thread

As soon as there is a post about something that kicks X10's ass there comes Sakis trying to forbid the discussion. It is indeed relevant for this thread with all devices that stipulate the fact that X10 is way outdated the moment it is released.


Sakis has a point. It could be posted to a proper forum such as the Iphone thread. The X10 is not an outdated device especially if it can leveled to 2.1. Trollers are everywhere.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 02:22
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On 2010-01-14 00:43:26, Saka wrote:

On 2010-01-13 22:56:21, S4k1s wrote:
Just a reminder...
Forum > Sony Ericsson > Android > Sony Ericsson X10 Official Thread

As soon as there is a post about something that kicks X10's ass there comes Sakis trying to forbid the discussion. It is indeed relevant for this thread with all devices that stipulate the fact that X10 is way outdated the moment it is released.


sure we can discuss the competition. but when the phones we are discussing are non existant (yes it would be in the works but you get what i mean), and we know NOTHING about, then whats the point?? Especially when people start saying 'o the new iphone is so much better than the x10'. Come on guys, comparisons are more than ok, but lets be realistic and keep to announced/released phones, or even those rumoured phones with CONFIRMED specs from trusted sources.

re the iphone pic, it looks quite funny, looks like a longer ipod classic with no buttons, hardly a looker? but hey, it just a concept

and a dual core processor? which one could it be. if its the dual core snapdragon we saw around CES, then i HIGHLY doubt we will see a phone with this chip until late this yr, or even early next yr. i for one, do not believe those specs at all. Well, the processor part anyway
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Posted: 2010-01-14 03:52
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That Korean times speclist is more of a fanboy wishlist than any "Confirmed" details. Even the biggest Apple worshippers out there, Engadget admitted it to be so.

I love how some people post vaporware and go all "OMG! Such-and-such SE is totally outdated now!!!! OMGLOLWTFBBQ...."


Well guess what, by your paper spec standards, the jesusphone and EVERY RIM model out there has been outdated for quite some time now.

Stop being hypocrites just for once, will ya?
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Posted: 2010-01-14 06:03
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Another video from CES, much of the same -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03ZI9grqEtE

One thing I have noticed in all the videos, that capacitive screen (or maybe its just Mediascape/Timescape) doesn't "appear" to be sensitive. The reps are often pressing items two and three times to get videos to play, load applications, etc. Or maybe the reps don't know how to use a touchsceen
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Posted: 2010-01-14 07:22
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hmm maybe? I don't know. I have trouble pressing buttons on my ipod touch. doesn't always take when i want it to, especially when the buttons are near the edges. I wouldn't think much of it.

and synn +1. everyone knows apple doesn't give out leaks and if anyone leaked confidential information apple would go after then with an army of lawyers. so any specs about a future iphone HAVE to be speculation and rumor and could never be fact.

back on topic.

I am looking forward to seeing more of the X10. It's great that they keep showing timescape/mediascape but why not show off other stuff on the device? I'd love to see google nav, more camera stuff, other apps that will be included, etc. Then maybe when timescape/mediascape are production ready, then go back and show us how it will be working when we have it in our hands.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 07:23
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I think that's because they press it for long time ( not just a click ) and probably move their finger with a millimetre on the side and the screen detects it as a movement instead a click.

I wonder how does the phonebook look like ( when you add new contacts ), the calculator, are there hand-writing notes ( like UIQ ), what kind of options does X10's camera have, the calendar...

And here is something interesting about IPhone's screen ( compared with Motorola Droid and two more phones ):
http://labs.moto.com/diy-touchscreen-analysis/
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Posted: 2010-01-14 10:38
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Not sure if this link has been posted before but here goes.
According to electronista.com the X10 was running Eclair when it was shown to them at CES.
In my opinion that means that the X10 will most likely be shipped with Android 2.0. Which is good...

http://www.electronista.com/a[....]sson.android.phone.a.redeemer/
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This link has already been posted a few times, and the information inside is wrong.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 12:17
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Back in November an SE rep confirmed to me that it would get 2.0, and I won't know why not. I mean, are there any examples where SE shipped a phone with a version of a platform that was already outdated? Shure, X1 didn't get an Winmo 6.5-update, but not a single model from autumn 2008 got that, so what's the point there? Funny that people are complaining about Samsung with the Omnia and SE with the X1, while the Touch HD didn't get an update too and is from the same period of time. But hey, HTC is so great, because the Diamond2 and the TP2 (which got released at least five months later) did get the update..... Weird, isn't it?
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Posted: 2010-01-14 12:39
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There are so many quotes flying around about whether the X10 will definitely get an update, or whether it's simply "updateable" - I think it's pretty likely they'll release 2.0 for it in due course, but it won't be there at launch. I base that on the fact that SE have already put a lot of effort into customising 1.6 to their end, and - particularly after the software debacles of the Satio and X2 - they aren't likely to ditch all that work in favour of a rushed port to something else at the last minute.

Having said all that, anyone who buys this phone, or any phone, on the promise of an update is a fool. If you aren't happy with the features and functions of the X10 with the software it's eventually released with, don't buy it. Wait until it gets that update and supports what you want, or look for something else that does already. Otherwise there's no telling how long you may be waiting for an update from a manufacturer who has, at the end of the day, already taken your money, given you a (hopefully) working phone, and really owes you nothing more.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 12:55
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New Pictures, are these any good?


http://blogs.sonyericsson.com[....]mple-photos-from-the-holidays/
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Posted: 2010-01-14 13:45
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On 2010-01-14 12:17:45, domipost wrote:
Back in November an SE rep confirmed to me that it would get 2.0, and I won't know why not. I mean, are there any examples where SE shipped a phone with a version of a platform that was already outdated? Shure, X1 didn't get an Winmo 6.5-update, but not a single model from autumn 2008 got that, so what's the point there? Funny that people are complaining about Samsung with the Omnia and SE with the X1, while the Touch HD didn't get an update too and is from the same period of time. But hey, HTC is so great, because the Diamond2 and the TP2 (which got released at least five months later) did get the update..... Weird, isn't it?


And dozens of other less popular HTC devices didn't get the update either.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 13:51
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On 2010-01-14 12:55:52, anders260 wrote:
New Pictures, are these any good?


http://blogs.sonyericsson.com[....]mple-photos-from-the-holidays/



Among the best of 8MP cameras.
Good quality really
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Posted: 2010-01-14 14:01
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On 2010-01-14 13:45:14, doministry wrote:
And dozens of other less popular HTC devices didn't get the update either.


True, and I'm not about to start banging a drum for HTC, although across their range they have been known to provide free updates for some of their Winmo and Android handsets. Even before WM6.5, they updated some of their original WM5 phones to WM6, WM6 phones to 6.1, etc. Not all, but some.

It's a stark, solid fact that SE have never provided a major OS update for any of their smartphones. Ever. Patches and fixes yes, but nothing more than that, and nothing on the scale of a move from Android 1.6 to 2.0 for example. That's not saying it won't happen for the X10, just that they have absolutely no history of it, no experience of releasing such an upgrade, and actually quite a few WM and UIQ users who have been disappointed by a lack of similar updates in the past.
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Posted: 2010-01-14 15:46
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On 2010-01-14 12:39:06, Boinng wrote:
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Having said all that, anyone who buys this phone, or any phone, on the promise of an update is a fool. If you aren't happy with the features and functions of the X10 with the software it's eventually released with, don't buy it. Wait until it gets that update and supports what you want, or look for something else that does already. Otherwise there's no telling how long y'ou may be waiting for an update from a manufacturer who has, at the end of the day, already taken your money, given you a (hopefully) working phone, and really owes you nothing more.
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Exactly. My sentiments exactly. If I buy the X10, I am not at all expecting to see any type of Android 2.0 update. If I don't buy the X10, I'm not expecting to see an Android 2.0 update. Given SE's history in software, I just don't expect it.
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