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JAGUY85
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Posted: 2008-05-08 07:02
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SE rescue us from this HTC onslaught!
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Posted: 2008-05-08 08:27
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Wow seriously though can SE do anything right these days? They messed up P990 and they are going down the same road.
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Posted: 2008-05-08 11:33
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On 2008-05-08 08:27:14, QVGA wrote:
Wow seriously though can SE do anything right these days? They messed up P990 and they are going down the same road.



im not following?

the x1 isnt even out yet, you cant say they are going down the same road.
so its being released in 2nd half of 2008, ah, so is, for example, the n96.
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Posted: 2008-05-08 12:15
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Could not care less about this...SE should have let HTC handle the software part also, they are way more used to develop in WM...SE should have their engineering resources focused on UIQ, not on this....
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Posted: 2008-05-08 12:18
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On 2008-05-08 11:33:46, >500 wrote:

On 2008-05-08 08:27:14, QVGA wrote:
Wow seriously though can SE do anything right these days? They messed up P990 and they are going down the same road.



im not following?

the x1 isnt even out yet, you cant say they are going down the same road.
so its being released in 2nd half of 2008, ah, so is, for example, the n96.


I'm not talking about releasing late. I'm talking about messing a phone up. Clearly this Xperia thing was too good to be true and now we've heard it wont come with all its bells and whistles.
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Posted: 2008-05-08 12:20
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sorry where did it say it isnt coming with all bells and whistles? am i missing something?
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Posted: 2008-05-08 12:50
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On 2008-05-08 12:20:07, >500 wrote:
sorry where did it say it isnt coming with all bells and whistles? am i missing something?


Yes you are. Read the previous pages.
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Posted: 2008-05-08 12:56
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what, the thing from MR?
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>500 is right...the fact SE is having troubles in finishing X1´s software does not mean it won´t perform has expected in the end...
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Posted: 2008-05-08 14:14
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LOL, the only noticeable bells and whistles on the X1 were the panels, which is still going to exist. I really wonder what these "other" plugins are that Eldar spoke about. And any thinking lacking by SE the WM modding community will make up for. Even if it launches without those panels, the diamonds Touch screen can be ripped and used on the X1, the TOuchFlo 3D or Manila interface is already running albeit very slowly, but to an extent on present HTC phones, its not usable though. So I definately would'nt write off the X1 just yet and end up looking like a fool after its released

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They should just scrap the X1 its just going to end up another mess like with the P990. By the time it comes out people will be focused on other things. But at least it should be cheap.
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On 2008-05-08 15:09:57, bavlondon2 wrote:
By the time it comes out people will be focused on other things. But at least it should be cheap.



not necessarily [addsig]
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Posted: 2008-05-08 15:20
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@bavlondon...
well really???.... can you tell me what my final exams marks will be?
i just tought that you are aware of the future.


but correct. if the X1 is going to be another P990; then they should cancel it now or correct the software BEFORE release.

i still can't forget what SE done to us with the P990.
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Posted: 2008-05-08 15:30
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On 2008-05-08 15:09:57, bavlondon2 wrote:
They should just scrap the X1 its just going to end up another mess like with the P990. By the time it comes out people will be focused on other things. But at least it should be cheap.



People were so excited about the X1 till the HTC Diamond announcement , and of course Eldars comments. We'll whatever said and done, its still the phone it was at its announcement. Reduction of a few plugins few people would use is'nt going to change that . Little do people realize that there are more than enough apps already developed to make the X1 a good buy depending on the pricing.

THe next HTC with a keypad may actually be thicker than the X1, which still looks extremely professional, and with a full metal body it should feel good as well. I hope the screen is of better quality than the TyTn2(material wise).

I fail to understand why Eldars comments affect peoples judgement on the phone, I understand if it was a non smart phone, then you're stuck with any old rubbish they throw at you with respect to apps, but this is a smartphone, not just any smartphone but its powered by WM , the number of apps avaialbe for it are countless and increasing by the day. Most probably even if it comes with all the plugins etc, you'll end up using a 3rd party application to do the same job. Eg: Even if SE's media player is so fancy I'd still use coreplayer, it supports almost all know codecs and video playback is fabulous. So I think before jumping to conclusions I think we must be patient to see what the end product has to offer.

If SE want to target the buisness market they'd either need to go with S60 or WM because of the app support, and they've chosen WM, not to bash UIQ or anything but I really cant see anything all that special in UIQ and the number of devs are far fewer. I like UIQ used to use an M600i and used a P1i for a while, but the OS feels lacking in some ways. I at least hope the newer version has some sort of kinetic scrolling in the least, cant imagine pulling out a stylus or using a finger nail to scroll on todays touch screens


On 2008-05-08 15:20:03, chombos1 wrote:
@bavlondon...
but correct. if the X1 is going to be another P990; then they should cancel it now or correct the software BEFORE release.
i still can't forget what SE done to us with the P990.


how can it be another P990, its not UIQ , the platform it has been built on is tried and tested and is basically and evolution of the TyTn II which has won several accolades and would have been "perfect" for its time if it was'nt for the 3D driver fiasco.

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Posted: 2008-05-08 15:32
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What's the deal with these WinMo GUIs (TouchFlo 3D and Xperia)? Is it the chipset or the OS causing the graphics sluggishness?
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