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doministry
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@Dogmann
Well, if you still discuss this N95 superiority it's quite pointless, since N95 having many advantages lacks some basics for me for instance, like qwerty or Office docs. editing, what is much more important for some, than 5mpix. And the touch screen thing, so you cannot say that there is any general quality difference since both have significant lacks. This bullsh... was also discussed in the UiQ3 topic.
And I also think that not all the hightech solutions can be compared together.
Anyway, it's hard to discuss if Pnext will be strong or not if we don't have any real data confirmed. Any, really. So you can't say if something is outdated if you don't have info about it (besides photoshops). I also think that noone can really SEE the huge and amazing difference between HSDPA 3.6 and 7.2 in the phone, come on guys.... You think too much about data on paper | |
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Tigershark42
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Mizzle, youre right, but still, we have nothing else to go on for the moment.
BTW Sony is fantastic in terms of build quality and durability IMO, and theyre ahead in terms of much research (eg ATRAC IS indeed a better variant of MP3, its just not as common a standard). Do not forget, theyre near the front of the pack in terms of almost every electronics market. You name it, Hifis, MP3s, headphones, alarm clocks, mobiles, CDs, PCs, cameras, TVs etc. I for one think their products are great, and theyre unparalleled in terms of range, selection and quality of products (IMHO).
Anyway, getting back to the main topic of discussion, hopefully this quality reflects in the P5i. Judging by all the concepts weve seen (which may not be official, yet PK has not said they are wrong) it looks to be something powerful and something new. Looks amazing. Keep up the good work Sealover and heres hoping for an announcement from SE  |
Tigershark42
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doministry, you have many valid points there. We can only hope the mysterious P5 is as good as it is made out to be. |
Dogmann
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@kenx3000
There was a virus but that was on S60 V2 and just how long ago was that now, which is why we have Symbian signing and greatly improved security there are no viruses for Symbian 9.1 or S60 V3 and if ther is please enlighten us all as quite simply again you are wrong.
@Domistry
I never mentioned the N95 only you have jumped to that conclusion besides which it is a Multimedia smart phone not a business smart phone if you really want to compare it with something try the E90's specs instead which is using already old spec's next year we will see newer processors in many devcies as the current spec was first seen in the N93 minus the extra Ram and HSDPA which are the only improvements as well as now demand paging in some devcies.
Also it not me that is claiming that an as yet announced specification is going to be class leading either. If you can't or don't understand what HSDPA brings to a Data centric devcie then you are ignoring the obvious and the simple fact that SE is now implementing this well established technical advancement in it's devcies at last.
I am willing to bet it will be in the P5 whether you are going to use it or not, and many of us will be really pleased it is there as well as even the 3.6mbps is seriously faster than 3G's 384kbps and to suggest otherwise and it's not an advantage or needed is just absurd.
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doministry
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@Dogmann
I think you missed a little bit from my point and you claim things I claim too,
I just wrote that difference between 3.6 and 7.2 Mb/s in mobile or wherever is not so huge,
but the difference between HDSPA and 3G is certainly amazing!
It's becoming a standard (although here only few big cities have it).
And I'll be first to use it,
And sure Pnext will have it!!!
Also, yes, E90 is better P1 competitor.
So finally we all are quite full of hopes,
At least me who is staying with Pseries, this philosophy is still closest to me. |
kenx3000
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@Dogmann
long ago or not, it still exists. Not everyone have changed their phone to V.3 and think about UIQ back then also. They also based off of the same base OS, but yet UIQ never had any "real" risks. This leaves impressions to user, and you know that it will affect existing users who decided to switch, because what's the percentage of the people who actually go out to the cyberworld, or book stores and look for phone reviews? |
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Umm...I'm just a little concerned. Everyone's pretty quick to give their kudos to SE when it's said that there'll be major hardware changes. Let's not get our hopes too high now, coz while it is natural for us to hope it's an upgrade, it might also be a downgrade. I mean coming from a P990i user, I know how when the going gets tough for SE, they just abandon their effort and move on. It's typical SE attitude these days and they might very well downgrade if they find it too hard to implement. I for one, am not gonna have high hopes on this one. We shall wait and see.
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makbil
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Guys, I thing the main point is missed in this discussion. What made the P9xx series unique was its form factor as well as the Symbian/UIQ combination. If the P5 is even remotely close to the concept pictures here, it becomes no different than the loads of similar WM devices and honestly I don't see SE making strong competition with them. Some of us like it and some don't but the flip design has made the P9xx series unique and without it the same concept will just not be there.
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doministry
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@makbil
Valid point, although I think now not so many people miss it anyway,
Many jumped to P1.
But agree - this was as unique, as - let's say - Communicators design.
But I'm very sure that Pnext will bring something really good and new.
And I'm very open to new solutions.
I think man we can forget Pseries shape from P800 to P990, that's almost for sure.
But, these photoshops are also far from the truth, I think.
I think they work heavy on the new Hardware/UI combination.
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razec
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On 2007-12-24 13:17:28, doministry wrote:
@makbil
Valid point, although I think now not so many people miss it anyway,
Many jumped to P1.
But agree - this was as unique, as - let's say - Communicators design.
But I'm very sure that Pnext will bring something really good and new.
And I'm very open to new solutions.
I think man we can forget Pseries shape from P800 to P990, that's almost for sure.
But, these photoshops are also far from the truth, I think.
I think they work heavy on the new Hardware/UI combination.
Agree with here:
As far as the concept design pic is cocerned, the concept is quite good but the real one must not be the same as the concept rendering. for sure the next P-series will be something like no other compared to it's competitors especially the design and UI. SE this time should do their homework rather than relying to the pointless latest trend we currently have and forgetting the usability and innovation trademark of the past P phones as for P1 it's like no other - no other manufacturer has managed to fit a full qwerty keypad in a regular mobile phone size as well as a 2.6" touchscreen in a very compact yet functional and powerful device.
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very nice concept sealover !!
I will bring my concept tomorrow.
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makbil
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@razec, as ı said some like it some don't. I do not like the keyboard of the P1 and would not buy a model that uses that type of keyboard.
Same as @doministry, I am open minded to new designs but it doesn't mean I have to like them.
The Tytn II design looks appealing to me, I've tried it and the keyboard is definitely a plus. But still it is not as convenient to use one handed as a P990 with flip.
Simply put, the Symbian/touchscreen/flip combination was a winner for me, without the flip there will be a number of TS devices to choose from which means SE would be loosing ground.
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doministry
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You're right
@makbil
But remember about specs
and UI.
This combination will be strong.
That's what I think.
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drsilverworm
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Nominate Sony Ericsson P5 for Engadget's Most Anticipated 2008 Gadget Award!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/[....]the-most-anticipated-gadget-o/
While you're there, nomiate a sony ericsson handset for best cellphone of 2007!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/[....]ate-the-cellphone-of-the-year/
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Posted: 2007-12-23 16:34
So I lowered my expectations and settled for a P1i. I couldn't keep my expectations so low for a long time so now I have an HTC Touch HD 
