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amagab
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A: Israel had nuclear weapons before the nuclear ban treaty was adopted by the UN General Assembly.
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mobility
Joined: Nov 29, 2002
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Iraq, Syria, and N. Korea has not yet signed that treaty. Goes to show what intentions they had/have.
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Yoeppie
Joined: Mar 28, 2003
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(Y isnt the US going after Israel and its WMD ?) A: cause the US has suplied 90% of it 2 Israel and the other 10% they have stolen from the US ........
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nyk_2702
Joined: Mar 29, 2002
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From: Lebanese/Palestinian-Living in
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Again, I ask.. Y does the US supply Israel/Allow it to hav WMD..
I dont think any1 shud hav WMD, but who is to judge who shud/shudnt hav them ?
The US only helps countries wen it suits, then they try make up for it by invading..
Who created and armed Bin Laden ?
Who created and armed Saddam ?
Who supplies Israel with more aid to help in its demolition of palestinian hoems ?
Who threatens World Peace, with illegal invasions, continouosly stupid remarks that create more hatred ?
Just look at its support for rogue states that are its 'Allies', for 18 yrs Israel defied the UN by staying in LEbanese areas, and would not withdraw until they wer defeated..
Israel continues to violate Human rights laws in Palestine, and continues to oppress the Palestinian people, again the US does nothing
Lebanese-Israeli war (Did not even attempt to pressure Israel into ending war)
Iran-Iraq war (at the time of conflict Iraq was a US ally)(Supplied Iraq with weapons to atempt to get rid of threat of increasing Anti-US feeling in Iran)
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amagab
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Well, you choose friends by having mutual political interests. Friends and enemies change with time. Friends are no longer friends when political interests clashes or go against each other. Yes, the US supported Bin Laden in the Afghan fight against Soviet Union...I probably would have done that too...but Bin Laden obviously changed his political goals when the Soviet Union pulled out of Afghanistan.
Why not go after Israel? You obviously didn't read my earlier post. There was a treaty signed by most countries in 1996 banning nuclear testing. Israel, as well as other countries had nuclear weapons before this treaty. Therefore, US is not going after these countries. Iraq, Syria, and N. Korea has been trying to create nuclear weapons AFTER the UN adopted this treaty. That is why the US has been putting pressure on these nations.
I do agree that the US are to lenient with Israel....but you have to realize that a huge part of the US population are Jews and that influences US foreign policy...just as the huge population of Arabs in France influences Chirac's foreign policy.
Arafat is doing nothing to achieve peace. A leadership change a very important part in the Israel-Palestine peace process.
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diggy
Joined: Mar 26, 2003
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Nyk, you remind of the Iraq information minister.
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dave_uk
Joined: Mar 06, 2003
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Isn't it interesting that the pro-Israel/pro-US/anti-Arab militants points of view are balanced, intelligent, well-reasoned and informed, backed up by accurate information.
Whereas the flip side is argued by those who, for the most part, have no idea what they are talking about and merely sound like mouthpieces for some Anti-US fundamentalist dictator, looking to justify the unjustifiable and always using the, "well look at Israel" argument.
Bit like a microcosm of the world at the moment.....
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nyk_2702
Joined: Mar 29, 2002
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From: Lebanese/Palestinian-Living in
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@dave_uk
Wud u care to point out the 'great' arguments of the pro-israel/pro-US camps..
becoz i havent really seen anything that gud..
They all sound like an Israeli foreign minister, or an American spokesperson..
But then again many people in the US/UK cant think for themselves, and require information from Biased sources to tell them wat goes on..
Y dont U go and hav a look at wat israel/US hav done in countries such as Lebanon, and Palestine, and THEN tell me my arguments are just babble.
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kapitan jackal
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@mobility- what intentions? every nation has the absolute right to defend themselves 
99% percent! NOKOR will be next, but it will be a different war, not as easy in IRAQ, and the north korean are preaparing for this.
@nyk- i agree  @looters and riots are all over iraq, if your a saddam supporter (your not carrying any weapon, your just a street parliamentarian) US forces will arrest you? you, an iraqi will be arrested by an american? in your own country? in your homeland?
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d' fuhrer
Joined: Feb 26, 2003
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99% percent! NOKOR will be next, but it will be a different war, not as easy in IRAQ, and the north korean are preaparing for this.
WHAT MAKES YOU SO SURE? THE NOKOR DICTATOR WAS THE ONE WHO SAID THAT HE WILL INVADE THE USA THEN HE CHANGED HIS MIND AND NOW WANTS TO TALK.
@nyk- i agree @looters and riots are all over iraq, if your a saddam supporter (your not carrying any weapon, your just a street parliamentarian) US forces will arrest you? you, an iraqi will be arrested by an american? in your own country? in your homeland?
SO THE GUYS ROBBING THE BANKS ARE SADDAM SUPPORTERS FOR EXAMPLE HUH. NO ONE ELSE CAN DO THE ARRESTING AND THE IRAQI POLICE FORCE IS UNDERMANNED. IF YOU SEE PEOPLE ROBBING A BANK WOULD YOU JUST STAND BY AND DO NOTHING?
something is not right here
YEAH, THE GUYS WITH CLOSED MINDS HERE
why don't we all WAIT AND SEE if the usa will occupy iraq? how, well if they did not leave even if there is an iraqi gov't, police, army etc. established. i will also go against this occupation. stop saying that this is what the usa will do to iraq it has not happened yet. are you guys psychics or something to know that this is what will happen?
bottomline NO ONE CAN DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
if you don't have something nice to say, don't say something nice. 
DON'T TAKE MY NICK SERIOUSLY YOU DUMBASSES!
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nyk_2702
Joined: Mar 29, 2002
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@ d' fuhrer
Sure the US felt threatened and attacked Iraq, but Iraq has NEVER had any capability of striking the US, the UN inspectors never found any WMD, the US didnt show any valid information to back up its case for war..
How do ppl know wat will happen in Iraq?
Easy! Look at Afghanistan nearly 2 yrs on, and look at it now...
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d' fuhrer
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Sure the US felt threatened and attacked Iraq, but Iraq has NEVER had any capability of striking the US, the UN inspectors never found any WMD, the US didnt show any valid information to back up its case for war..
YES THE UN INSPECTORS DID NOT FIND THE 4 BURIED CONTAINER VANS SOUTH OF THE CAPITAL WITH CHEMICAL LAB EQUIPMENT INSIDE THEM. TOO DUMB TO SEARCH. THEY ALSO FOUND SOME MORE AL-SHAMUD MISSILES WHICH SADDAM SAID WAS DESTROYED AND A VIOLATION OF THE 1991 TREATY.
How do ppl know wat will happen in Iraq?
Easy! Look at Afghanistan nearly 2 yrs on, and look at it now...
WELL, AFGHANISTAN HAS U.N. TROOPS THERE SO IT MEANS THE USA WILL NOT OCCUPY IT FOR LONG. THEY STILL NEED MORE HELP. A COUNTRY LIKE THAT CANNOT BE ON IT'S OWN IT JUST A SHORT TIME. 2 YEARS IS A SHORT TIME. HONK YOU HORN IF HAS TAKEN MORE THAN 5 YEARS WHICH IS AN ACCEPTABLE TIME PERIOD.
MY LAST PARTING WORDS; JUST WAIT AND SEE BEFORE POINTING ACCUSATIONS!
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nyk_2702
Joined: Mar 29, 2002
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From: Lebanese/Palestinian-Living in
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Yes they r leaving Afghanistan...
But look HOW they've left it!
Its all rubble! The Americans hav rebuilt Kabul and the airport..
Karzai was on TV in an interview, and he sed, 'The US promised everything, but has given NOTHING'...
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scubba_steve
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@nyk_2702
You are simply being unrealistic when it comes to rebuilding a country. These are not short-term projects. You continually point at Afghanistan and say outside of Kabul there is no order. My question is this, was there real order before the coalition forces went in? And the answer is no. All of those areas have been and are still controlled by either ethnic tribes or warlords. The reason the US started in Kabul is because it is the capital of the nation. By establishing order, and re-cultivating an economy then can the stable government stretch its power and bring order and stability to other parts of Afghanistan.
In regards to Iraq, order will take time. Look at the Los Angeles riots, which happened in our own country and look how long that took to settle down. In fact the Iraqi people are starting to establish some order on their own streets. Keep in mind there are still some people looting and so forth but I’m sure that will be stopped very shortly.
About the WMD's, once again it will take time to search for them. You’re an educated person and you know this (To deny this would be foolish). Iraq is a large country and there are lots of ways to hide things that you don’t want to be found. As an example: money hidden under the mattress. Everyone knows about it. So why is it that my wife can never find my little stash of money? Sometimes the most obvious hiding places are the hardest to find.
oh and please dont tell my wife were I hid my spending money 
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nyk_2702
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The US' annual budget plan, or watever its called in the US included no FINANCIAL aid/loans/grants for Afghanistan, hence, Agfhanistan wasnt given any money this year. This is why I say Afghanistan this, Afghanistan that.
As for the WMD, the UN has been ther for months, and Hans Blix sed he was pretty sure Iraq was WMD free...
But on the matter of WMD, how come Arab states are forbidden from developing them ? I dont think any1 shud hav them, but how come the US tries to stop anybody that developes them?
How do we know its better for the US to hav them?
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