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antichrist
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:41
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scratch resistant? holy s*** !!!
sorry, i missed that
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:43
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well... i`ll get back to K series with that beauty... not to happy with P990 . I need HSDPA and faster processor in a touchscreen device... and no P or W have that.
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:47
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First impression of K850

http://mobil.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200706/14/20070614212014_AHD318/20070614212014_AHD318.dbp.asp

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2007-06-14 21:53

As previous more advanced camera mobiles from SE, the new K850 has both flash and AF. But now the resolution is 5 MP. The camera usage itself does not differ much, but the media viewer is clearely improved.


K850 feels fairly solid in the hand, without being clumsy. The part that makes most impression is the screen, which according to the personal at the location makes use of a new technology where the screen is placed to appear as being glued to the phone. The result is an unusually sharp picture and it realy shows when watched.

The key pad is designed in a new way where the key pad and the screen melts together so to speak. At the bottom, the screen transitions to key pad over a soft rubber edge. One simply press there at the edge to select the menu entries shown at the botton of the screen. It works realy well. Previously SE have had problem with their navigation sticks, which easly have given up and lost sensitivity. Now there is a navigation button instead, which looks like a ring around two of the number buttons. On our particular test specimen the button is a bit damaged, så it does not respond well in all directions, but as said earlier, that is specific to our specimen. However, it feels a bit unusual to have buttons that are normally used for other purpose in the middle of the navigation button. One simply wants to press them to confirm choices.

The K850 5 MP camera provides the usual functions found on previous models where the settings in the menu now also have been complement with explaining pictures. The phone also senses the direction in which the phone is hold, thust pictures are shown horizontally if the phone is hold that way and vertically if the phone is hold tha way.

With its turbo-3g, K850 is capable of fast surfing and SE has developed the RSS reader we can also find in previous models. Now one can configure for instance if one does not want to download pictures and how much of the text one wants. It is also possible to get the content directly on the start screen as a rolling ticket with current information. The blogg function is now also updated to allow send of video clipps to one's blogg via the mobile network, yet another way to make use of the turbo-3G data connection.

As a phone, the K850 feels a bit clumsy and especially the square buttons makes it feel not very well designed. To some extent this is due to functions have been given precedence over design. At the side of the phone there is now a button to switch between view, video and camera mode. It becomes more like a real camera.
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:48
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Let's see how will this FAIR with the N95 now . . . [addsig]
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:51
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'However, it feels a bit unusual to have buttons that are normally used for other purpose in the middle of the navigation button. One simply wants to press them to confirm choices. '

Sounds to me as if, to move around menus, you have to use the green ring as you would expect, but that to confirm a choice, you DON'T actually press the buttons in the middle..i.e 2 or 5, but you use..perhaps the central soft key..directly above the ring.

Anyone else follow that too?
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:52
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Wow just saw those google vids. The accelerometer looks awesome in action.

http://www.belgiquemobile.be/[....]-ericsson-de-berlin/#more-1321

[ This Message was edited by: bavlondon2 on 2007-06-14 22:56 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:53
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oohhh. it looks so awesome in "real" life..............must buy !
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Posted: 2007-06-14 23:54
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On 2007-06-14 23:48:55, *Jojo* wrote:
Let's see how will this FAIR with the N95 now . . .



Yeah im looking forward to that. lol Although its a dead cert in terms of imagine alone the k850 will come out on top.
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Posted: 2007-06-15 00:00
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On 2007-06-14 23:51:25, arj2442 wrote:
Sounds to me as if, to move around menus, you have to use the green ring as you would expect, but that to confirm a choice, you DON'T actually press the buttons in the middle..i.e 2 or 5, but you use..perhaps the central soft key..directly above the ring.

Anyone else follow that too?


That's my understanding as well.
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Posted: 2007-06-15 00:07
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Ahh yehs...just watched the live video on google of how to use the interface.

For anyone that hasn't yet seen it... the interface works like so...

up, down, left right etc is on the green/blue ring, and then as the on screen options change, the new 3 soft key options (3 opposed to the old 2), then change on screen, so for items which you may want to delete, such as a phonebook entry, the screen position above the left soft key displays delete. But for other items it differs. The select/play button is always in the middle position and back is always on the right soft key.


A question arises though..

Surely it is quite far to move your thumb from the bottom of the ring when scrolling down a list...to then pressing select. Could this not get annoying?

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Posted: 2007-06-15 00:14
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definitely will get this one to replace my N95 as the main camera phone!
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Posted: 2007-06-15 00:30
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Hi all,

I actually think this is a great device from SE it looks good ticks all the right boxes especially with HSDPA as if you are going to be uploading or Blogging pictures that extra speed is sure going to come in handy. Great job SE just wish it was launching a bit quicker patience never was my strong suit.

@Mweb6161

Of course we do i sold my soul to the devil for free Nokia's for life!!

Also the competition for this device is not the N95 which will be at least 6 or 7 months old by it's release and is not a Camera only either. The competition for this device is going to the Nokia N82 also with 5 mega pixels and Xenon flash and until they both launch no one can know for sure which will be best.

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Posted: 2007-06-15 01:04
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On 2007-06-15 00:07:21, arj2442 wrote:
Surely it is quite far to move your thumb from the bottom of the ring when scrolling down a list...to then pressing select. Could this not get annoying?


As mentioned in my translation above, the device is a bit more convenient to use as a camera than as a phone. A deliberate design decission. I can live with that and the thicknes as long as the camera deliveres excelent pictures (we have not seen anyone yet).
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On 2007-06-14 20:35:34, jcwhite_uk wrote:
Not released until Q4 is it? Thats October at the earliest. 5MP will be old by then.


Oh really, I don't hear EVERY other manufacturer announcing 5MP by that timeline. HTC, Motorola, Sagem, LG / Samsung - American & European divisions haven't (although Samsung DOES have a 5MP with Optical Zoom in Asia). So no it will NOT be old; specially with the quality it'll provide.

I just HOPE Sony & SE heavilly invest and license the patent for Electro-Magnetic Liquid Optical lenses: unless it demands too much power! We should se these phones by 2nd qtr 2008.

Just remember that any further jumps in MP in a camera phone by SE will significantly cut into their CyberShot Camera division, especially with Optical Zoom into the picture. Personally I think they should combine the two into SE products starting in November 2007 and keep the Sony CyberShot lineup to High-End HD Cams/Camcorders where the pricing for the higher MegaPixels are warranted by the applications sought after for that high price. Furthermore it'll yeild higher margins for profits


On 2007-06-14 20:33:37, Dart5 wrote:
Not really - bit disappointed, doesn't offer much more than my K800. Was hoping that after having my K800 for nearly a year something a bit more would be on offer when my contract can be upgraded.


What are you talking about? The K700 offered quality VGA, was NOT the first VGA but around the last. 40MB memory. Other that styling not much improvement from the T630 - OS changed of course. K750 offered expandable memory, flash was NOT part of the Platform (OSE) before hacks, and 2MP camera with Auto Focus was the BIGGY! K790/800 offered newer, smaller & faster memory M2 slot, BEST PIC and better camera interface - a serious consideration to get than just a regular 3.2MP Camera Shooter (Not talking about Canon A-line; ie A75/80). This K850i offers newer CyberShot interface (Much better than the K810; which is just a fill-in really) with HSDPA, 2MP MORE which SHOULD be as significant as the jump from K700 to K750 was.

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Posted: 2007-06-15 01:22
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Does anyone know what kind of music player is on it ? Someone said it's a walkman 2.0 version, but those were just rumours.
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