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a.j.daniels
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Posted: 2006-08-12 18:17
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orange offered me one for £100 on upgrade. 2Questions - does mp3 sound quality compare ok to my current p910 and what is the orange branding like? Really dont want to lose the screen that summarises your appointments messages and tasks but fear that orange have put their hideous home screen on. If so can it be swirched off to get the original back? Thanks

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Wam7
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Posted: 2006-08-12 19:41
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@a.j.daniels
Welcome, I have just come from the Orange shop and I can confirm that Orange have indeed bastardized the phone. I suspect and hope it's straight forward to get rid of this. My initial impressions were that it's seems to have slowed the phone as from initial reports most people say switching from portrait to landscape is now instantaneous. For me there is a slight delay/jerk when the screen redraws.

As to the mp3 question I didn't test that but my brother has the Vario (predecessor) and mp3 quality seemed on par with my P910i but you will need a more definitive answer.

The phone itself is very nice, aesthetically I prefer it to the P990 so M3100>P990>TyTN. I may go and buy the phone on Monday but just needed to check how the Line 2 limitation on WM 5.0 devices would be dealt with. Calls I made went from Line2 but if someone tried to call Line2 it gave an obtainable reply. Calls could only be made to the Line1 number. Not what I expected.

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Posted: 2006-08-12 19:59
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Regarding the SPV M3100, the orange interface that runs in the today screen can be turned off leaving the SPV M3100 looking like any other windows mobile device.

a.j.daniels
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Posted: 2006-08-12 20:08
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thanx guyz -@edakin - presumably there is a setting on the phone 2do this-we arent talkin reflashing\\debranding -ta

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edatkin
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Posted: 2006-08-12 20:46
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@ a.j.daniels

there is an "orange" plug in that runs in the today list just like when you display contact info etc, you just uncheck it and it's gone.

All the orange stuff is still using storage memory - the next step is to work out how to remove it to free up space.

Cheers

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Posted: 2006-08-12 22:30
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I received today my Vodafone 1605 and I will return it on Monday. The phone had a slight problem with screen allignment that I was unable to correct, despite reallignment and resseting the phone. It is a problem that it seems has occured to other Tytn's as well. Nonehtless, I liked the phone and will get a replacement.

FYI, I also loaded Skype for Mobile, and it worked fine over wifi. That was one of the main reasons I bought the 1605. I suspect that even if Skype comes out for Symbian mobile, the processor of the P990 will not be fast enough to make good use of Skype.
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Posted: 2006-08-12 22:41
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FYI, I also loaded Skype for Mobile, and it worked fine over wifi. That was one of the main reasons I bought the 1605. I suspect that even if Skype comes out for Symbian mobile, the processor of the P990 will not be fast enough to make good use of Skype.



So the P990 can perform real-time analogue to digital processing for GSM calls but would not be able to do the same for Skype...not sure your logic is totally valid here
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Posted: 2006-08-12 23:28
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This was just an assumption I made because I had heard in the past that Skype for mobile did not run well on phones with slow processors. The Tytn has a 400mhz processor, while the P990 has a 208 Mhz processor. Thus, I made this conclusiuon purely based on processor speed and could certainly be wrong, as the two processors are of different type for each phone.
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Posted: 2006-08-12 23:34
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mobile phones use hardware to convert analogue to digital and digital to analogue but applications such as skype needs to do it in software and so yes, it requires processing power

The k-jam, for example, has a 195mhz processor and yet comes pre-installed with skype which worked fine in the few tests I did.

Although P990's processor is different architecture I have no reason to doubt that it would not be capable of handling skype if and when a UIQ3 version comes available
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Posted: 2006-08-13 00:30
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@deshark & masseur

my mistake about the AD conversion, I meant to talk about the real-time comms stack that Symbian manages which tells me that you could write software that run in a predictable way using Symbian if the API are there which means that the lower CPU is not that important.

EDIT: see this News item about Skype Spain and Symbian




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Posted: 2006-08-13 01:04
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Anyone tried the tomtom on this?

Whats it like? Is it Loud enough? Can you still make and recieve calls whilst Using the TomTom?

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Mr[NiK]
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Posted: 2006-08-14 11:59
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So how many people are that pissed off with waiting for the p990i and gone for the tyTN instead ??!! [addsig]
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Posted: 2006-08-14 13:09
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Have a look at this!!!

http://www.indippc.com/v3/index.php/topic,676.0.html

Might make you think twice about the TyTn.

I might be mis-reading it so any comment or feedback is much appreciated. Also is there any way of running a comparable benchmark test for the P990i against the TyTn?

Thanks
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Posted: 2006-08-14 13:15
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On 2006-08-14 13:09:06, sunnychad wrote:
Have a look at this!!!

http://www.indippc.com/v3/index.php/topic,676.0.html

Might make you think twice about the TyTn.

I might be mis-reading it so any comment or feedback is much appreciated. Also is there any way of running a comparable benchmark test for the P990i against the TyTn?

Thanks



Explains why the Universal is so poor! But tests are one thing and use in real-life in another. Best to get all perspectives.
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PTM
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Posted: 2006-08-14 15:39
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Can somebody just confirm for me as I am little confused.

In the UK the HTC TyTN, Vodafone v1605, and Orange SPV M3100, are all the very same phone but just branded differently?

If this is correct, if say I had a Vodafone v1605 where would I look for updates, Vodafone or HTC.com? Does Qtek have anything to do with it, as I keep seing Qtek mentioned, and on the Vodafone UK website a number of Qtek phones are identical.

Finally I know it has been mentioned that the Orange SPV M3100 is branded, is the Vodafone v1605 branded also?

Thanks for any advice!!
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